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Re: [modeling-pmc] Transition Plan for MDT OCL andEMF"QTV" Components?

Ed,

I assume this is just an oversight in the flurry of activity...


Ed Willink wrote:
Hi

I'm puzzled that I'm not one of the proposed MDT-OCL committers given
that I'm the only person to have contributed sufficiently to merit
promotion to a committer under normal circumstances, and given that
I have indicated that I am happy to contribute further to the project.

	Regards

		Ed Willink

  
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From: modeling-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:modeling-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Freddy 
Allilaire
Sent: 16 March 2009 15:05
To: PMC members mailing list; Ed Merks
Cc: Laurent Goubet
Subject: Re: [modeling-pmc] Transition Plan for MDT OCL 
andEMF"QTV" Components?


Hi Ed,

Here is the proposed set of committers for MDT/OCL subproject

lead : Freddy Allilaire
committers :
Anthony Hunter
Bernd Kolb
another SAP guy ;-)
Laurent Goubet

Bernd : we'll soon need the "SAP guy" name ;-)

Regards,
Freddy

Ed Merks a écrit :
    
Guys,

I've asked the EMO about how to handle this and they are fine if we 
simply identify for each component a new set of committers. So I'll 
expect to see a proposed set of committers, including a 
      
lead, for each 
    
component *by the end of next week*, and then I'll go forward with 
that list.

Cheers,
Ed


Anthony Hunter wrote:
      
So Christian, are you willing to baby sit the components 
        
on your own 
    
time until a termination review?

Or would you rather vote in a some committers on each of these 
components to take over next week, with the provision that things 
could change based on the to be scheduled termination review?

Cheers...
Anthony
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Anthony Hunter mailto:anthonyh@xxxxxxxxxx
Software Development Manager: Eclipse Open Source Components
IBM Rational Software: Aurora / GEF / GMF / Modeling Tools
Phone: 613-270-4613


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---03/12/2009 10:16:29 
    
AM---Hi, Kenn, Thanks for your prompt input. That has 
        
be"Christian W. 
    
Damus" ---03/12/2009 10:16:29 AM---Hi, Kenn, Thanks for 
        
your prompt 
    
input. That has been my understanding, too.


From: 	
"Christian W. Damus" <give.a.damus@xxxxxxxxx>

To: 	
PMC members mailing list <modeling-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>

Date: 	
03/12/2009 10:16 AM

Subject: 	
[modeling-pmc] Re: [emf-dev] Re: [mdt-ocl.dev] Transition Plan for 
MDT OCL and EMF"QTV" Components?


        
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Hi, Kenn,

Thanks for your prompt input. That has been my understanding, too.

Perhaps the name of this review mechanism is problematic: 
        
it should 
    
be called the 

        
"Please-help-Eclipse-to-decide-what-to-do-with-this-project 
Review." :-)
    
I shall work up some slides, then, for termination reviews 
        
of these 
    
components and send them out for feed-back before asking 
        
the EMO to 
    
schedule the reviews. These slides will make it clear that 
        
there is, 
    
in my opinion, sufficient interest to re-boot these 
        
components with 
    
new committers under new leadership and that this should be the 
recommended course of action. As I understand it, the interested 
parties will have an opportunity to collaborate on the new 
        
road-map, 
    
committer team, and leadership for these components.

Thanks!

Christian


On 12-Mar-09, at 8:50 AM, Kenn Hussey wrote:

            Christian,

            The process for “vaulting of individuals into committer
            positions” IS the Termination Review, AFAIK. 
        
To be clear,
    
            a Termination Review does not automatically mean the
            project/component will be terminated/archived; it gives
            the community the chance to step up and 
        
potentially do a
    
            reboot. I don’t think we can/should replace all of the
            committers (only one in this case) with new 
        
ones via the
    
            usual voting process unless we can justify the new
            committers based on meritocracy…

            Cheers,

            *Kenn Hussey
            Program Manager, Modeling and Design Solutions*
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            *From:* _emf-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_
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            [_mailto:emf-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_] *On Behalf Of
            *Christian W.Damus*
            Sent:* Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:40 AM*
            To:* PMC members mailing list*
            Cc:* MDT OCL mailing list; Eclipse Modelling Framework*
            Subject:* [emf-dev] Re: [mdt-ocl.dev] 
        
Transition Plan for
    
            MDT OCL and EMF"QTV" Components?

            Hi,

            Thanks to Anthony, Cédric, and Bernd for expressing
            willingness to commit to the continued 
        
vitality of these
    
            components! It's great to see such support.

            Just to be clear, again: as I understand it, 
        
Termination
    
            Review is the only process by which a 
        
project's committer
    
            team might be changed /en masse/ on events 
        
such as this,
    
            and the preferred outcome for all stakeholders 
        
is always
    
            that the project continue under new leadership 
        
with a new
    
            committer team.

            If there is another mechanism available, or if the
            Modeling PMC can direct a transition, please 
        
let me know!
    
            I prefer a smooth transition of these components into
            willing and capable hands. For example, if the PMC can
            approve the vaulting of individuals into committer
            positions that they would not, under normal
            circumstances, yet have earned, then that works for me.

            Kenn? Ed? What is your recommendation as PMC 
        
reps for the
    
            projects involved?

            Thanks,

            Christian


            On 11-Mar-09, at 5:30 PM, Christian W. Damus wrote:


            Hello, my PMC,

            As most of you already know, I have been unemployed for
            some time now. That interval is now coming to 
        
an end, to
    
            my great relief.

            However, in my new employment, the job description does
            not include time to spend on development of the Eclipse
            Modeling components on which I am currently a 
        
committer.
    
            Nor would I expect it to, as the work is quite removed
            from the MDD sphere.

            I would not be able to contribute as a 
        
committer on these
    
            components to the standard expected of the Eclipse
            community, and certainly not my own standard, on my own
            personal time. Therefore, I shall need to relinquish my
            committer rights on the MDT OCL component and the EMF
            Query, Transaction, and Validation components 
        
as of next
    
            week.

            The problem is, of course, that I am the only committer
            on these components. As I understand the 
        
Eclipse process,
    
            a Project that finds itself without any committers
            proceeds to Termination Review in the hope that the
            project can be re-staffed. Is the same true of
            Components? Can we assume that the rules of the new
            process (in which these components that are still
            Components would be Projects) should apply?

            Please advise.

            Thanks,

            Christian
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