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Re: [microprofile-wg] Proposal: Adjusting 2022 Budget

I like the idea of having an “on-target-budget” of $50-60K as the WG adjusts in size, although it doesn't have to be written into the charter that way. I prefer keeping the minimum of $1,500 for traditional perceived value reasons - if it too low, people won’t perceive value, it encourages participations to get value out of the fee, etc. I would also be OK dropping the $4K down to $3K in support of your point.

On Nov 3, 2021, at 2:46 AM, Steve Millidge (Payara) <steve.millidge@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I don’t have a problem in principle with reducing fees. Just a point to note smaller fee payers are getting a 20% reduction or zero reduction whereas larger organisations are getting 60% reductions. Shouldn’t the reduction be consistent across the board. If you want an approx 50% reduction just cut all fees by 50%?
 
Steve
 
From: microprofile-wg <microprofile-wg-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Summers Pittman
Sent: 02 November 2021 17:50
To: Microprofile WG discussions <microprofile-wg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [microprofile-wg] Proposal: Adjusting 2022 Budget
 
 
 
On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 4:36 PM David Blevins <dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
All,,
 
I'd like to propose we consider reducing the overall MicroProfile budget to something around 50k/year.  Here is a fee structure that could get us there with current membership.
 
Corporate Revenue
Fees 2021
Fees 2022
Annual Corporate Revenues greater than $1 billion
$25,000.00
$10,000.00
Annual Corporate Revenues greater than $100 million but less than or equal to $1 billion
$20,000.00
$8,000.00
Annual Corporate Revenues greater than $10 million but less than or equal to $100 million
$15,000.00
$6,000.00
Annual Corporate Revenues less than or equal to $10 million
$5,000.00
$4,000.00
Annual Corporate Revenues less than $1 million and < 10 employees
$1,500.00
$1,500.00
Total budget with all current members
$119,500.00
$56,500.00
 
 
There are a handful of motivations:
 
 - We've operated successfully for 5 years without budget
 - We have a 36k surplus we don't know what to do with and 2 months to spend it
 - The budget is a continuous source of conflict.  I sense we'd be overall happier with a more traditional open source "what we need is contributed" style
 - $110k of our 2021 came from Jakarta EE, which is looking at a $250k reduction in 2022 budget; $360k if $110k is again shifted away towards MicroProfile
 - We'll unlikely need or use an 80k to 90k surplus in 2022, this could go to Jakarta EE instead
 - Even at a reduced budget of 56k for MicroProfile 2022 there'll still be $30k available after G&A and Ops costs
 - Any needs above and beyond can be donated or contributed as-needed as has been the case over the last 5 years
 
We have our own reasons for there to be a lower budget; we don't use what we have and it generates conflict.  Given that and the reduced budget for Jakarta EE, there is an opportunity for a win-win if we get this done quickly while Jakarta EE budget discussions are still open.
 
Thoughts?
 
+1 and well said.
 
 
If people like this, we'd likely need to get this voted in the next two weeks.

 

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David Blevins
 
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