[mdt.dev] Re: [modeling-pmc] MDT (EODM, UML2 Tools) Graduation

[Kenneth Hussey <khussey@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I've submitted https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=191537
for EODM and https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=191540 for UML2
Tools. Lei and Michael, please make the required changes ASAP.

Cheers,

Kenn Hussey

Senior Software Developer
Rational Software, IBM Software Group

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Thanks, Nick, I'll be submitting bugs against EODM and UML2 Tools shortly.
We should probably also update all the bugs in these components that are
targeted against the wrong milestone (e.g. 2.0 -> 0.9 for EODM, 1.0
-> 0.8 for UML2 Tools). 

Kenn Hussey

Senior Software Developer
Rational Software, IBM Software Group

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Kanata, Ontario, K2V 1C8

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I'll update the build tools so that zips and jars will be numbered 0.9
and 0.8 for EODM and UML2Tools, respectively. Component leads will
need to update their manifest.mf and feature.xml files to match. Kenn,
if you want to open bugs for those work items, please cc: me on them.

Thanks,

Nick

On 6/7/07, Ed Merks <merks@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Kenn,
>
> I agree.  I don't get the sense that these components are ready
to exit
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> Thanks, Kenn.  I agree with you that #2 is the right option at
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> On 6/7/07 9:51 AM, "Kenneth Hussey" <khussey@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> Rich,
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> At this point, I think the options are as follows:
>
> 1. Approve graduation of the component(s) and proceed to have the
> Foundation conduct the review. In this case the version numbers of
these
> components would remain as is (2.0 for EODM and 1.0 for UML2 Tools).
>
> 2. Deny graduation of the component(s) but release them as part of
Europa.
> In this case, the version numbers will need to be changed (e.g. 0.9
for
> EODM, 0.8 for UML2 Tools).
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> 3. Deny graduation of the component(s) and not release them as part
of
> Europa. In this case, the version numbers could stay the same, but
the
> components would no longer be following the schedule of the MDT project
> (and Europa release).
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> I personally thing that option 2 is the right choice for both components.
> Back when we were planning the 1.0 release of MDT, we optimistically
chose
> to target 2.0 and 1.0 for EODM and UML2 Tools in anticipation that
they
> would be ready to exit incubation come release time. We were fully
prepared
> to deal with the possibility that they would not be ready to graduate.
> Either way, we need to make a decision so that if we need to change
version
> numbers (for example), we can do so sooner than later (e.g. before
I sent
> out my legal certification for these components).
>
> Kenn Hussey
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> Yes, but there could not a ?previous release? or else they wouldn?t
just
> now be exiting incubation, right?  It seems this is the first
actual
> release, and I see previous 0.8 downloads, so to me it makes sense
for this
> to be 1.0.
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> Regarding UML2 Tools, I don?t think it?s ready to exit incubation,
> actually.  Taking a look at the 3 communities, it?s still looks
like an
> incubator.  For development, we have 1 committer from 1 company,
along with
> 2 active contributors from the same company (not so diverse).  For
> adopters, I don?t know of any commercial products yet building on
UML2
> Tools.  From the newsgroup activity, the user community still
seems
> fledgling.  Then, there?s the fact that although Michael, Tanya,
and Sergey
> have made great progress with the 4+ diagrams, it?s still a subset
of UML2
> diagrams.  In conclusion, I guess I don?t see how spending another
release
> cycle in incubation for this component is a bad thing.
>
> And then there?s the Europa train... As UML2 Tools is on the train,
it is
> supposed to be released (exiting incubation) in order to be a part.
 This
> presents a complication, but at the same time seems no different than
last
> year when GMF itself released/exited incubation but shipped EMFT components
> that were not yet out of incubation.  This year, it would seem
that MDT is
> in this boat, releasing in Europa some new components are incubating.
 The
> version number for UML2 Tools would need to reflect this (even a number
> approaching but not yet an official 1.0.0).  Other thoughts?
>
> I?m not too familiar with the status of EODM, so will defer to others
to
> comment until I can take a closer look.
>
> Best,
> Rich
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> On 6/7/07 9:11 AM, "Kenneth Hussey" <khussey@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
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> Rich,
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> I believe the only restriction is that a major version number (i.e.
> anything before the first dot) cannot be used if still in incubation.
We
> chose "2.0" for EODM because the API, and specification
version that it
> conforms to, is quite different from the previous release.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Kenn Hussey
>
> Senior Software Developer
> Rational Software, IBM Software Group
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> Kanata, Ontario, K2V 1C8
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> Hi Kenn,
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> I guess I missed part of this conversation and outcome along the way,
but
> how can EODM be using the 2.0 release number if it?s not yet out of
> incubation?  Shouldn?t they both be graduating and releasing
a 1.0 version?
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
>
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> On 6/7/07 8:44 AM, "Kenneth Hussey" <khussey@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
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>
> I hereby request approval for the EODM and UML2 Tools components of
MDT to
> graduate from incubation to that we be declare 2.0 and 1.0 releases,
> respectively, as part of the upcoming 1.0 release of MDT.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kenn Hussey
>
> Senior Software Developer
> Rational Software, IBM Software Group
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