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Re: [jsp-dev] Proposal: merging the Jakarta Tags and Jakarta Pages projects
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Paul,
In the Jakarta EE 10 time frame, I think absolutely not. Time is short
and the associated admin overhead of a merge would not be helpful.
A merge after Jakarta EE 10 is worth a discussion. My initial thoughts are:
- The specs would need to remain independent as we don't want to make
Pages implementers have to provide a Tags implementation
- The means we'd need to keep separate repos, CI, releases etc
- So really, the only thing that would be merged is a couple of mailing
lists and two websites.
I'm not at all convinced that such a merger would be a net gain.
What this really boils down to is are there more people here at Pages
that would be willing to help move Tags along. If there are, then a
simpler solution may be to issue an open invitation for any Pages
committer to join Tags. That would give almost the same result with a
lot less admin overhead.
In terms of things to help projects with low participation make
progress, something that has worked very well for EL is removing
(actually it was never applied as far as I recall) the requirement for a
PR to be approved by a separate committer. I have been able to make good
progress on EL in the last few weeks and the other folks that are
involved are able to provide feedback when they need to but things
aren't help up waiting for approval for PRs that are trivial /
administrative / uncontroversial.
Depending on how things go in the next week or so, I may look to remove
the mandatory reviewer requirement from Pages as well.
Mark
On 15/09/2021 20:47, Paul Nicolucci wrote:
Hi, As I'm sure everyone here is aware we have a Jakarta Standard Tag
Library (Jakarta Tags) project:
https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/ee4j.jstl
<https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/ee4j.jstl> The Jakarta Tags
project is closely related to the Jakarta Pages project. I'd like to
propose we merge the two projects to increase participation in the
Jakarta Tags Project. Basically expanding the scope of the Jakarta Pages
project to include Jakarta Tags.
I've been trying to make progress for Jakarta EE 10 (Tags 3.0 release)
but I've had a really hard time getting participation on the mailing
lists and issues/pr reviews..
For example the current thread I'm seeking feedback on:
https://www.eclipse.org/lists/jstl-dev/msg00075.html
<https://www.eclipse.org/lists/jstl-dev/msg00075.html> .
I have a list of issues I'd like to complete for Jakarta EE 10 here:
https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jstl-api/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3AJakartaEE10
<https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jstl-api/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3AJakartaEE10>
There is some precedence for project merging such as when the Managed
Beans Project was merged into the Platform project. I look forward to
hearing from everyone with their thoughts on merging the projects.
Regards, Paul Nicolucci
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