| Re: [jnosql-dev] Spec Status |
Hello everyone.I got some news:I had the conversation with a PMC EE4J member, that is the answer:The process for new specifications in Eclipse is not defined yet.There is no good reason to file a through the JCP once the focus is JavaEE EE4JEE4J is code first, then spec, so once the project has both API and implementation that is ready to submit to EE4J.So, that seems the process became lighter than in JCP.We don't need to create a Graph spec once Apache TinkerPop is doing this for us, thereby a slight performance in Graph API.Before submit we need to break down the API and the implementation.There isn't news about the package name, to Oracle gives the javax name to Eclipse Foundation.On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 12:09 PM, Werner Keil <werner.keil@xxxxxxx> wrote:Ok, then it was at least grabbed by Tomitribe, might make it easier for us/Otavio to use then 😉
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From: Manik Magar
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 15:06
To: jnosql developer discussions
Subject: Re: [jnosql-dev] Spec Status
oh yes about jakarta.ee ... here is a snippet from the blog it redirects to -
' The excitement grew overwhelming when I saw the “ee” domain extension actually existed and “jakarta.ee” domain was still available. So was the twitter handle. So was the github organization. I snatched them all up and shared my enthusiasm for the name with the rest of the EE4J PMC and soon it was the only name any of us could think of.'.
Regards,
Manik
Regards,
Manik Magar
On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 8:39 AM, Werner Keil <werner.keil@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Manik,
+1 I think this makes most sense now.
Stay on org.jnosql. Until it is clear, if there should be a new Namespace like org.eclipse.ee4j, org.eclipse.jakartaee or similar (Jakarta.org belongs to the Island of Jakarta and someone on GoDaddy just grabbed https://www.whois.com/whois/ja
kartaee.org hopefully Eclipse Foundation, but if it is a Domaingrabber, Eclipse Foundation will have to deal with them)
Regards,
Werner
From: Manik Magar
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 14:31
To: Jnosql Developer Discussions
Subject: Re: [jnosql-dev] Spec Status
Considering JNoSQL not being part of JCP now, I don’t think we can use javax for any new non-jcp oriented specifications. EE4J and Oracle seems to be clear about who can and who cannot use javax package. Any existing JavaEE APIs that ever led through JCP can retain javax but all new specifications that are not derived by JCP, cannot use javax if it has to be part of new EE4J umbrella. And I am not sure if JCP process is ideal choice now for any new JavaEE targeted APIs.
If the plan is to ultimately be part of EE4J umbrella , then my suggestion would be to stay on org.jnosql and wait for the EE4J package finalization. Hopefully before JNoSQL 1.0 is released, move to the new EE4J package whatever it would be.
In short, wait for some more time.
Regards,
Manik
On Feb 15, 2018 at 7:21 AM, <Lucas Furlaneto> wrote:
I think we should submit a JSR and wait for Eclipse Foundation definition about EE4J process.
Eclipse is discussing about EE4J and maybe we can use javax.nosql or just maintain org.jnosql
Lucas Furlaneto
2018-02-15 9:01 GMT-02:00 Otávio Gonçalves de Santana <otaviopolianasantana@xxxxxxxx
m >:
Right now, we're stuck in the specification process.
Briefly, Java EE has moved to Eclipse Foundation and them still discussion about their process yet.
So, there're questions that still remain:
- Should we submit a JSR then EE4J?
- What about the package name API? Should we submit a JSR just to keep the javax.nosql?
- What is the submission lifecycle? Could we use a JSR as a template?
ps: I'm sending these question to EE4J too.
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