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Re: [jaxrs-dev] [External] : Re: Jakarta REST 3.1.0
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  • Thread-topic: [jaxrs-dev] [External] : Re: Jakarta REST 3.1.0

Hi, 
I like the change now. Should GitHub move to the Jakarta organization, I'd like to have it under a new name. Moving GitHub again for 4.0 won't be appreciated by the community too gratefully. Now it is an ideal opportunity to change the name before the move to prevent another move from something like github.com/jakarta-ee/jaxrs-api to  github.com/jakarta-ee/jakarta-rest as mentioned by Ed.

Thanks,
-- Jan

From: jaxrs-dev <jaxrs-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of arjan tijms <arjan.tijms@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 8:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [jaxrs-dev] [External] : Re: Jakarta REST 3.1.0
 
Hi,

Summing up, I think we have a majority vote for Jakarta REST, so shall we go ahead and make that official?

We had a similar issue with Jakarta Faces, which accidentally got named Jakarta Server Faces for a short while. It was fairly easy to correct that. There too, having Jakarta Server Faces as an official name and then Jakarta Faces as the real name simply didn't add anything for anyone.

Additionally, with having simple names (Jakarta Faces, Jakarta Transactions, Jakarta Persistence, ...) people don't feel the need to start using cryptic abbreviations. Cryptic abbreviations are very unfriendly to new people, so best avoided.

Kind regards,
Arjan


On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 12:39 AM Ed Bratt <ed.bratt@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Projects generally have a full name and a short name. Currently, Jakarta RESTful Web Services has a short name, restful-ws. This name first appears (to me) about the time we were getting RESTful web services 2.1 ready for ballot (Jul-Sep 2019).

I'm +1 on moving away from JAX-RS since that's fading further and further in the rear-view mirror.

I'm supposing we aren't interested in changing the package name -- sticking with jakarta.ws.rs. In a perfect world, I think it would be nice if the repository and package name lined up but, that seems in-opportune right now (i.e. repository were to become restful-ws and the package name were to change to jakarta.restful_ws or jakarta.restful.ws. (or replace restful with rest, etc.)

If this is the direction the group decides to go in, we should update the name of the GitHub repository as well as the name of the PMI project page (currently https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/ee4j.jaxrs). For me, getting the PMI project page, the repository, and it's associated web-page all aligned with the 'short-name' that the Spec. directory uses would be nice. I don't see this as something super urgent though.

To recap:

I am certain all the jaxrs names are just hold-over legacy. The team can decide if it wants to use 'rest' or 'restful-ws' or anything else that can be consistently applied. Maybe the 4.0 release is the right time for doing this.

-- Ed

On 11/23/2021 9:49 AM, Markus Karg wrote:

I do not see the confusion. IMHO most people are able to understand that "Jakarta REST" simply is a short from of "Jakarta RESTful Web Services".

-Markus

 

Von: jaxrs-dev [mailto:jaxrs-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Santiago Pericasgeertsen
Gesendet: Montag, 22. November 2021 15:29
An: jaxrs developer discussions
Betreff: Re: [jaxrs-dev] [External] : Re: Jakarta REST 3.1.0

 

 



On Nov 20, 2021, at 3:18 AM, Markus Karg <markus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

I am -1 for actually renaming the project, but I am +1 for adopting "Jakarta REST" as the official short form we commonly use in our documents.

 

 That is basically the status quo. It simply adds confusion when we mostly refer to it as “Jakarta REST” and the project is named differently.

 

— Santiago

 

 

Von: jaxrs-dev [mailto:jaxrs-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Santiago Pericasgeertsen
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. November 2021 15:31
An: jaxrs developer discussions
Betreff: Re: [jaxrs-dev] [External] : Re: Jakarta REST 3.1.0

 

 

 Yes, definitely, Jakarta REST is a lot better. 

 

— Santiago




On Nov 16, 2021, at 4:53 PM, Emily Jiang via jaxrs-dev <jaxrs-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

+1 on both Markus and Arjan's suggestions for the shorter version number and name suggestions!

Thanks

Emily

 

On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 8:07 PM arjan tijms <arjan.tijms@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi, 

 

Sounds great! Should we take the opportunity to change the name officially into Jakarta REST, doing away with the longer name that no one ever uses or even can remember exactly?

 

Kind regards,

Arjan

 

On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 4:35 PM Santiago Pericasgeertsen <santiago.pericasgeertsen@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi All,

 I plan to create the final 3.1.0 jars for Jakarta 10 and push them to Staging in the next day or two. TCK work will likely continue for a bit longer, but in the meantime we can submit the spec PR and get the approvals we need. 

— Santiago

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Thanks
Emily

 

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