Re: [jakartaee-spec-project-leads] How to recognize the latest version o

[Mark Thomas <markt@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On 27/05/2020 03:17, Kevin Sutter wrote:
> Right, Hussain, which is why we should not be using the dot notation
> when specifying the Mn or RCn artifacts in Maven.  The dash notation for
> Mn or RCn artifacts allows the proper parsing and comparisons.  I know
> we discussed this back when we were were creating the "Milestone or RC"
> API artifacts, but it must not be documented very well... 

It is documented but that documentation [1] came after the questions
about how to do the EL release [2] and, I suspect, was as a result of
the discussion [3], [4] around that and related releases.

We are where we are and we can't undo publish stuff from Maven Central.

I've done a quick check with
org.apache.maven.artifact.versioning.ComparableVersion and this should
be fixed once we have a 4.0.0 release.

Mark


[1]
https://www.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/jakartaee-platform-dev/msg01353.html

[2] https://www.eclipse.org/lists/jakartaee-spec-project-leads/msg00342.html

[3] https://www.eclipse.org/lists/servlet-dev/msg00108.html

[4] https://www.eclipse.org/lists/jakartaee-spec-project-leads/msg00347.html



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> 
> From:        <Hussain.NM@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To:        <jakartaee-spec-project-leads@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date:        05/26/2020 17:51
> Subject:        [EXTERNAL] Re: [jakartaee-spec-project-leads] How to
> recognize the latest version of artifacts in central?
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> 
> Re-sending
> 
>  
> 
> Lukas is right, using the maven-artifact tool it says 4.0.0.M1 > 4.0.0-RC1
> 
>  
> 
>> java -jar %MAVEN_HOME%\lib\maven-artifact-3.6.3.jar 4.0.0.M1 4.0.0-RC1
> 
>  
> 
> Display parameters as parsed by Maven (in canonical form) and comparison
> result:
> 
> 1. 4.0.0.M1 == 4.0.0.milestone-1
> 
>    4.0.0.M1 > 4.0.0-RC1
> 
> 2. 4.0.0-RC1 == 4-rc-1
> 
>  
> 
>> java - jar %MAVEN_HOME%\lib\maven-artifact-3.6.3.jar 4.0.0-RC1 4.0.0.M1
> 
>  
> 
> Display parameters as parsed by Maven (in canonical form) and comparison
> result:
> 
> 1. 4.0.0-RC1 == 4-rc-1
> 
>    4.0.0-RC1 < 4.0.0.M1
> 
> 2. 4.0.0.M1 == 4.0.0.milestone-1
> 
>  
> 
> We can conclude from above 4.0.0-RC1 becomes 4-rc-1 whereas 4.0.0.M1
> becomes 4.0.0-milestone-1.
> 
> If we have 4.0.0-M1 and compare with 4.0.0-RC1 then it becomes
> 4-milestone-1 < 4-rc-1.
> 
> If we have 4.0.0.RC1 and compare with 4.0.0-RC1 then it becomes
> 4.0.0-rc1 > 4-rc-1.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Hussain
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> From: jakartaee-spec-project-leads-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
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> <mailto:jakartaee-spec-project-leads-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>> On Behalf Of
> Lukas Jungmann
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 3:28 AM
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> Subject: Re: [jakartaee-spec-project-leads] How to recognize the latest
> version of artifacts in central?
> 
>  
> 
> On 5/26/20 11:10 PM, arjan tijms wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
> 
>>
> 
>> Should be date.
> 
>>
> 
>> Both qualifiers are Maven recognised though, see
> 
>> https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Focto
> 
>> pus.com%2Fblog%2Fmaven-versioning-explained&amp;data=02%7C01%7Chussain
> 
>> .nm%40cognizant.com%7C8499180385e74d5e233d08d801bfe1ed%7Cde08c40719b94
> 
>> 27d9fe8edf254300ca7%7C0%7C0%7C637261270941831432&amp;sdata=9JkDfTKKIvw
> 
>> qtLBqSHMd0wc1wVlzbpbmfhNGZ1KAbqM%3D&amp;reserved=0
> 
>  
> 
> I'm not talking about version number recognition, I'm talking about
> proper version ordering, so one can rely on available tooling to save
> some time and use automation to take care of updating dependencies.
> 
>  
> 
>>
> 
>> Normally rc should come after m, and the separator is optional. Do
> 
>> note that they differ here: the "-" in RC vs the "." in the M1. I'm
> 
>> not entirely sure why Maven displays them out of order though, but my
> 
>> guess is the different separators confuse it.
> 
>  
> 
> https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmaven.apache.org%2Fpom.html%23Version_Order_Specification&amp;data=02%7C01%7Chussain.nm%40cognizant.com%7C8499180385e74d5e233d08d801bfe1ed%7Cde08c40719b9427d9fe8edf254300ca7%7C0%7C0%7C637261270941831432&amp;sdata=oPPtZlzsOrVOHf3ytLeyX1rRdyyZrYd9wnOIz0hqIo0%3D&amp;reserved=0
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> it
> 
> - '.' is a version number separator, while '-' is not, so:
> 
>  
> 
> 4.0.0-RC1 has 3 parts - 4, 0, 0-RC1
> 
> 4.0.0.M1 has 4 parts - 4, 0, 0, M1
> 
>  
> 
> and maven compares 3rd part - '.0-RC1' with '.0' and if I got it right,
> ".qualifier" < ".number" applies => '.0-RC1' < '.0', so in the end
> '4.0.0-RC1' < '4.0.0.M1'
> 
>  
> 
> thanks,
> 
> --lukas
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>>
> 
>> Kind regards,
> 
>> Arjan
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 10:54 PM Lukas Jungmann
> 
>> <lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx%20%3cmailto:lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx>>>
> wrote:
> 
>>
> 
>>     Hi,
> 
>>
> 
>>          I'm trying to update dependencies in some implementation projects
> 
>>     and came through this:
> 
>>
> 
>>     when I visit ie
> 
>>    
> https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsearch.maven.org%2Fartifact%2Fjakarta.el%2Fjakarta.el-api&amp;data=02%7C01%7Chussain.nm%40cognizant.com%7C8499180385e74d5e233d08d801bfe1ed%7Cde08c40719b9427d9fe8edf254300ca7%7C0%7C0%7C637261270941831432&amp;sdata=uBSbIMMP2x39oep1%2Bzih%2BDwCS8TDaR8raZ%2FENWOtAN4%3D&amp;reserved=0
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> can see
> 
>>     that the latest version "by date" is 4.0.0-RC1
> 
>>
> 
>>     when I run `mvn -U -C versions:display-property-updates` I see:
> 
>>     [INFO] The following dependencies in Dependency Management have newer
> 
>>     versions:
> 
>>     [INFO]   jakarta.el:jakarta.el-api ...................... 4.0.0-RC1 ->
> 
>>     4.0.0.M1
> 
>>
> 
>>     which basically says that 4.0.0-RC1 has been updated by 4.0.0.M1.
> 
>>
> 
>>     Who should I trust? Maven? Date?
> 
>>
> 
>>     thanks,
> 
>>     --lukas
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