Re: [jakartaee-spec-project-leads] Automatic Module Names for Jakarta EE

[Lukas Jungmann <lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

On 1/29/20 1:39 PM, Mark Thomas wrote:
> - Use that as the automatic module name

I know what I'm going to say is likely out-of-scope for EE 9 but at 
least for APIs, I'd recommend considering providing full JPMS descriptor 
instead. The problem with automatic module name is that what 
people/users seem to care about - based on projects I'm involved in - is 
the ability to use jlink provided by JDK 11+ and jlink cannot be used 
with automatic modules.

thanks,
--lukas

> is consistent with the requirement that the module names start with
> "jakarta." and not inconsistent with any other Jakarta EE wide policy.
>
> I therefore intend to proceed with this approach in the projects in
> which I am involved.
>
> Separately, I'd like to recommend this proposed approach for adoption
> across Jakarta EE.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
>
> On 28/01/2020 18:13, Kevin Sutter wrote:
> > Thanks for the pointer to the Issue.  Here's the reference to the PMC
> > minutes regarding Module Names:
> >   https://www.eclipse.org/ee4j/minutes/?date=2018-11-06#module-names
> >
> > This was the discussion previous to the Jakarta EE 8 release.  It has
> > not been formally addressed for the Jakarta EE 9 release.  I still stand
> > by the "jakarta." prefix, but we haven't declared the required
> > definition of module names across all individual projects.
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> > Kevin Sutter
> > STSM, MicroProfile and Jakarta EE architect @ IBM
> > e-mail:  sutter@xxxxxxxxxx     Twitter:  @kwsutter
> > phone: tl-553-3620 (office), 507-253-3620 (office)
> > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwsutter
> >
> >
> >
> > From:        Anthony Vanelverdinghe <anthonyv.be@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To:        JakartaEE Spec Project Leadership discussions
> > <jakartaee-spec-project-leads@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Mark Thomas <markt@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date:        01/28/2020 11:53
> > Subject:        [EXTERNAL] Re: [jakartaee-spec-project-leads] Automatic
> > Module Names for Jakarta EE 9
> > Sent by:        jakartaee-spec-project-leads-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Mark
> >
> > There's [1], which says that module names must be "jakarta.*", so e.g.
> > jakarta.el, jakarta.websocket, jakarta.servlet
> > I've been unable to find the issued PMC statement though.
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/ee4j/issues/34#issuecomment-436605211
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Anthony
> >
> > On 28/01/2020 18:02, Mark Thomas wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > A number of projects I am involved in have open issues for JPMS names to
> > > be defined [1][2][3]. Using the JAR name is inherently unstable and
> > > triggers warnings in various build systems.
> > >
> > > Is there an official view on what project should be using? I looked in
> > > [4] but module names are explicitly excluded.
> > >
> > > Absent an official view, is there any objection to projects using:
> > > - Take the OSGi Bundle-SymbolicName
> > > - Replace any "-" with "."
> > > - Use that as the automatic module name
> > > ?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/el-ri/issues/46
> > > [2] https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/websocket-api/issues/260
> > > [3] https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/servlet-api/issues/201
> > >
> > > [4] https://wiki.eclipse.org/JakartaEE_Maven_Versioning_Rules
> > >
> > >
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