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Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] [DISCUSS] Mark Application Client as deprecated in Jakarta EE 11 Platform Profile?

The application client is mentioned in the Enterprise Beans specification, specifically as a requirement for support of Enterprise Beans Remote interfaces.

There is a section on various API groups that may be supported by a vendor, with Enterprise Beans Lite being the minimum, and then there are rules for when a vendor may claim support for other API Groups.

For the Enterprise Beans 3.x Remote API group, a vendor MUST support the application client (container) to claim support.

While remote interfaces may optionally be accessed from other clients, the only 2 that are required are:
1. server process of the vendor product (same or different JVM)

2. application client container

 

Interoperability with other vendors is optional. Access from a “thin” client (i.e., standalone JVM) is also optional.


If we are going to deprecate the application client, then is it also time to deprecate the Enterprise Beans Remote API group as well?  Without the application client, there would be no required client making Enterprise Beans Remote interfaces effectively unusable?

Tracy Burroughs  (tkb@xxxxxxxxxx)

WebSphere Application Server Development

IBM Rochester, Dept AAW, Bldg H315/050-2

2800 37th Street NW, Rochester MN 55901-4441

 

From: jakartaee-platform-dev <jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Scott Stark via jakartaee-platform-dev
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2024 12:59 PM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] [DISCUSS] Mark Application Client as deprecated in Jakarta EE 11 Platform Profile?

 

I believe that app client is entirely in the platform, but need to double check CDI for mentions. On Tue, Nov 26, 2024, 11:43 AM Ed Burns via jakartaee-platform-dev <jakartaee-platform-dev@eclipse.org> wrote: Greetings Programs, At the

I believe that app client is entirely in the platform, but need to double check CDI for mentions.

 

On Tue, Nov 26, 2024, 11:43 AM Ed Burns via jakartaee-platform-dev <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Greetings Programs,

 

At the 2024-11-26 Platform Project call, an idea was surfaced, I think originally by Ivar, to not wait until EE 12 to mark the Application Client as deprecated in the Platform Profile. This thread is intended to discuss and determine the feasibility of this idea.

 

The most important questions seem to be:

  • Can this be done without making any changes to any of the component specifications?
  • Can this be done entirely and completely by making changes only to the Platform Profile specification text? 

Thanks,

 

Ed

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