Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Release profiles independently

[Reza Rahman <reza_rahman@xxxxxxxxx>]

I think these are very hypothetical concerns not worrying that much about. Every specification/feature that is part of a smaller profile will in all practical likelihood also be a part of the full profile. Therefore there will likely transitively be a full profile release anyway, especially since that’s what a majority of Jakarta EE products still support in the foreseeable future. This is also more likely due to the fact that Jakarta EE releases will also likely be needing to catch up with Java SE releases, so there is value to doing exactly what was done for Jakarta EE 9.1 platform wide whenever the opportunity arises.

The only way this makes sense is if the full profile implementations really do not wish to stay that up-to-date and that seems pretty far-fetched. With some notable exceptions, full profile implementations seem to actually even stay up-to-date with MicroProfile and Java SE.

I do agree something like “cloud profile” is probably a poor name. Believe it or not, people want to run their old COBOL applications on the cloud as is, let alone Java EE/Jakarta EE applications. The public cloud is far more un-opinionated than most people seem to realize. It’s best to stick with something a bit more generic/neutral like Minimal or Core Profile.

Reza Rahman
Jakarta EE Ambassador, Author, Blogger, Speaker

Please note views expressed here are my own as an individual community member and do not reflect the views of my employer.

> On Mar 16, 2021, at 8:43 PM, David Blevins <dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> I think the key thing to call out is that this thread has quickly become about simply more profiles, not necessarily releasing them separately.  In fact the first responses suggest it be "as part of Jakarta EE 10", which means it's locked in the same release cycle as the Platform and Web Profile.  I'm not aware of anyone who has *not* had the idea of more profiles :)
> 
> Responding on the topic of profiles actually being separate released, the main thing we'd have to be aware of is we'd no longer be able to say "Jakarta EE 10", or "Jakarta EE 11".  Those days would be over.  We'd instead have "Jakarta EE Platform 10.2, Jakarta EE WebProfile 11 and Jakarta EE Cloud Profile 14 have been released!"
> 
> Anyone have any thoughts on that?
> 
> 
> -David
> 
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