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Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] [glassfish-dev] JakartaEE 9.1

Just to clarify the minutes from our last Platform Call...  The question was raised whether Glassfish 6 could support both Java SE 8 and Java SE 11.  Although it may be desirable for Compatible Implementations to support both Java runtimes with a single version of the product, it is not a requirement.  So, if a new version of Glassfish (6.1 or 7.0) is required to certify with Java SE 11, that is just fine.

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From:        Werner Keil <werner.keil@xxxxxxx>
To:        jakartaee-platform developer discussions <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:        12/29/2020 13:02
Subject:        [EXTERNAL] Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] [glassfish-dev]  JakartaEE 9.1
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I would say as the minimum Java 11 sounds OK but if Glassfish could only be built with Java 11 and not 12-15 as well (optionally with 11 as the minimum) then a couple of nasty JDK bugs that make the use of modules or multi-release-JARs (especially in combination) impossible prior to Java 14 (see https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53581799/jdeps-command-use-with-multi-release-option-failed) would plague it until the upper JDK version is increased to something reasonable.

 

Also once you are past Java 11 the others are usually not that difficult because 11 removed all the XML and SOA stuff that is now in Jakarta EE anyway.

 

Regards,

Werner

 

Von: Gurkan Erdogdu
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Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] [glassfish-dev] JakartaEE 9.1

 

Then only supporting of JDK11 is very reasonable for GF 6.1. I think there is no need to support JDK8.

Regards.

Gurkan


On 29 Dec 2020, at 20:55, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

Hi,

 

GF6 (EE 9) will stay on JDK 8, but GF6.1 (EE 9.1) will move to at least JDK 11. The entire purpose of EE 9.1 is to introduce JDK 11 support, so there should be at least one implementation that validates that. Of course we could call it GF 7 if that's more appropriate.

 

Kind regards,

Arjan

 

 

 

On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 6:33 PM Gurkan Erdogdu <gerdogdu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi

 

I am not in favor of supporting both JDK 8 and JDK 11.

Especially, most of the users are not ready for moving to JDK11. Therefore, I prefer to support only JDK8 for GF6.

But for the following major releases, it is perfectly reasonable to support only JDK11 and above.

Regards.

Gurkan

 


On 29 Dec 2020, at 17:35, Steve Millidge (Payara) <steve.millidge@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

 

I just read the minutes here Jakarta EE Platform Call (eclipse-ee4j.github.io)and in particular the comment “Verify with the GlassFish team if GF will be able to certify on both Java SE 8 and Java SE 11”

 

From my perspective as project lead for GlassFish I would rather NOT support certifying on both JDK 8 and JDK 11. I’ve CC’d in the glassfish-dev list in case anybody there wants to chime in.

 

Steve

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