Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Jakarta EE 9 Milestone release?

["Kevin Sutter" <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx>]

>  btw,
does the transformer also transform the imports (and if needed, exports,
and uses attributes) in MANIFEST.MF?

Yes, it does modify
these type of attributes in the MANIFEST.MF.  The project still is
in the "transferring" state to the Eclipse repositories (going
through IP checks, etc).  The Transformer code base is still in one
of our developer's repos:  https://github.com/tbitonti/jakartaee-prototype.
 We also have this information that we're using for our Open Liberty
development team:  https://github.com/OpenLiberty/open-liberty/wiki/Open-Liberty-JakartaEE-Enablement

Consistent documentation
for the Eclipse Transformer project is coming with the "grand opening"
of the Eclipse repo (soon).

In the mean time,
if you have questions about how to use the Transformer, I'd suggest using
the mailing list (which is fully operational): https://accounts.eclipse.org/mailing-list/transformer-dev

Hope this helps!
 We are finding the use of the Transformer extremely helpful during
our Jakarta EE 9 development and test efforts.  Since most of the
implementations of the Jakarta EE 9 components are not changing functionally
(only the namespace change), the use of the Transformer allows us to use
the same implementation with both sets of namespaces.  Same thing
for our Functional test buckets.  We're even making progress with
the Platform TCK during this transition phase.

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Kevin Sutter 
STSM, MicroProfile and Jakarta EE architect @ IBM
e-mail:  sutter@xxxxxxxxxx     Twitter:  @kwsutter
phone: tl-553-3620 (office), 507-253-3620 (office)    
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwsutter



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       arjan
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Date:
       05/10/2020
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Hi,

On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 1:46 PM Steve
Millidge (Payara) <steve.millidge@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
tbh GlassFish could
remove Fighter Fish in the first instance as it is not required for Jakarta
EE 9. I will raise that on the glassfish-dev list.

I was actually thinking about the same
thing. Getting it to compile is 1, getting it to allow GlassFish to start
is yet another. Getting it to actually work and pass tests might be horrible. 

I'll do a PR for my current work with
Fighter Fish at least, but it may be better to postpone actually including
that work for a GlassFish 6.0.1 or so.

btw, does the transformer also transform
the imports (and if needed, exports, and uses attributes) in MANIFEST.MF?

Kind regards,
Arjan

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From: jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx<jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
on behalf of arjan tijms <arjan.tijms@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 09 May 2020 9:25 AM
To: jakartaee-platform developer discussions <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Jakarta EE 9 Milestone release?
 
Hi, 

Things are going reasonably well, but
there are still a number of blockers. Latest one is Fighter Fish (the
OSGi interop), which is itself large enough to take some time to Jakarta-ize,
but it also depends on OSGi enterprise, which uses javax types:

<groupId>org.osgi</groupId>
<artifactId>osgi.enterprise</artifactId>
<version>7.0.0</version>

package org.osgi.service.http;

import java.io.IOException;
import java.net.URL;
import javax.servlet.http.HttpServletRequest;
import javax.servlet.http.HttpServletResponse;

/**
 * Context for HTTP Requests.
 * 
 * <p>
 * This service defines methods
that the Http Service may call to get
 * information for a request.
 */
public interface HttpContext {}

Not sure how to handle these things.
Negotiate with the OSGi alliance to have them release a new spec?
That will very unlikely happen within a month.

Kind regards,
Arjan Tijms





On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 6:44 PM Kevin
Sutter <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi,
Based on Steve's recent update on Glassfish, we're making some fantastic
progress towards Jakarta EE 9!  Although this is promising news from
a CI viewpoint and we're also making progress on the TCKs, it's looking
less and less likely that we will be able to produce a final release of
Jakarta EE 9 by June (our original goal).  FYI, a final release of
Jakarta EE 9 would require the final Specifications, final APIs, final
TCKs, and final Compatible Implementations (CI), along with the results
of the TCKs running against the CIs.  So, even though we are making
great progress, that is a lot of work to be done by June...

To that end, we've been thinking about producing an M1 (Milestone) release
for Jakarta EE 9 in the June timeframe.  We have already produced
an RC1 for the Jakarta EE 9 APIs.  But, this Jakarta EE 9-M1 would
include the current state of all the Specs, APIs, TCKs, and CIs. 
Before we could actually produce this M1, we would need a functional, running
Glassfish 6.0.0-M1 along with a running Platform TCK 9.0.0-M1.  Not
sure if we want to set a bar for the TCK success rate, or just advertise
where we are at with running the TCK.  For example, do we want to
wait until we get to 75% successful before claiming an M1 release? 
Or, do we use a date cutoff and when we announce the M1 release, we also
announce our current TCK success rate (whatever that happens to be)?

This would need to be a coordinated effort across all of the Jakarta EE
projects, so I'm looking for input and buy-in before we start down this
path.  Producing an M1 release for Jakarta EE 9 would show all of
our positive progress.  And, it would give our potential stack products
(IDEs, frameworks, etc) a useable release to start experimenting with the
new jakarta namespace.  Comments and suggestions welcome.  Thanks!

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Kevin Sutter 
STSM, MicroProfile and Jakarta EE architect @ IBM
e-mail:  sutter@xxxxxxxxxx    Twitter:  @kwsutter
phone: tl-553-3620 (office), 507-253-3620 (office)    
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwsutter
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