Re: [jakarta.ee-spec] [External] : Defining Jakarta EE 12 Scope in Progr

[Scott Stark <starksm64@xxxxxxxxx>]

The SecurityManager usage is removed in EE 11. There are no TCK
requirements around the SecurityManager or its permission model.

On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 4:06 PM Reza Rahman via jakarta.ee-spec
<jakarta.ee-spec@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Ed,
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> Do you know to what extent the Security Manager dependency removal work was done in EE 11? I know at least some work was done, but was it really platform wide, comprehensive, and consistent across specifications?
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> Thanks,
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> Reza
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> On 1/13/2025 4:50 PM, Will Lyons wrote:
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> All –
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> I don’t know if this topic has been covered so capturing it here.
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> If Jakarta EE 12 will be supported on Java 21 and Java 25, we will need to review the implications of features that are likely to be removed, including the following:
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> JEP 486: Permanently Disable the Security Manager
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> https://openjdk.org/jeps/486
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> https://inside.java/2024/12/11/quality-heads-up/
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> My understanding is that some Jakarta EE specifications have a dependency on Java Security Manager, especially Connector.   The implications of this removal, and the alternative actions in response, should be identified.
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> Thanks
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> Will
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> From: jakarta.ee-spec <jakarta.ee-spec-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Reza Rahman via jakarta.ee-spec <jakarta.ee-spec@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tuesday, October 22, 2024 at 5:31 AM
> To: jakarta.ee-spec@xxxxxxxxxxx <jakarta.ee-spec@xxxxxxxxxxx>, jakartaee-platform developer discussions <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: Reza Rahman <reza_rahman@xxxxxxxx>, jakarta.ee-wg@xxxxxxxxxxx <jakarta.ee-wg@xxxxxxxxxxx>, JakartaEE Spec Project Leadership discussions <jakartaee-spec-project-leads@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [External] : [jakarta.ee-spec] Defining Jakarta EE 12 Scope in Program Plan
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> Hi folks,
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> I would like to see if we can define clear, compelling, and specific
> scope for Jakarta EE 12 as part of the Steering Committee Program Plan:
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1xUNDHMP_qTHH1wA3m0yCmWVf_sHp41Qd7Opq3FhgINs/edit?usp=sharing__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!JRyWXHKEIqZVVomnYLlS0QyUtsJEoWg8IRbVnLEaSORXIZEDGC7g2LKdj0UEv5FUv236NQVnUAlM3c_VR54pIbg1yb5z$ .
> I believe this is of critical importance at this juncture. If I did not
> think so, I would not bother trying. I have detailed all the rationale
> here:
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1U2qEqF9K969t5b3YuX4cwex5LJPvF3bt1w27cdKNpDM/edit?usp=sharing__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!JRyWXHKEIqZVVomnYLlS0QyUtsJEoWg8IRbVnLEaSORXIZEDGC7g2LKdj0UEv5FUv236NQVnUAlM3c_VR54pIW1VfRhW$ .
> For those that recall, something very similar was done for Jakarta EE
> 11, so this isn't exactly without precedent.
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> I would like to see if this can be done in the following couple of
> weeks, when the Program Plan is due.
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> Thanks,
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> Reza
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