| [jakarta.ee-spec] Jakarta EE Spec Committee Approved Meeting Minutes - October 6th, 2021 |
Attendees (present in bold):
Kenji Kazumura - Fujitsu
Kevin Sutter - IBM - Tom Watson, Emily Jiang
Ed Bratt - Oracle - Dmitry Kornilov
Andrew Pielage - Payara
Scott Stark - Red Hat - Mark Little, Scott Marlow
David Blevins - Tomitribe - Jean-Louis Monteiro, Cesar Hernandez
Ivar Grimstad - PMC Representative
Marcelo Ancelmo - Participant Member - Martijn Verburg
Werner Keil - Committer Member
Jun Qian - Primeton - Enterprise Member
Eclipse Foundation: Tanja Obradovic, Paul Buck (chair), Wayne Beaton
Past business / action items:
Approval is requested for the meeting minutes from the September 22nd meeting as drafted - Approved.
Agenda:
Ongoing tracking spreadsheet of individual specs progress through the JESP
Jakarta EE 10 Plan Review - Candidate specifications
Project Board https://github.com/jakartaee/specifications/projects/1
Release Plan https://eclipse-ee4j.github.io/jakartaee-platform/jakartaee10/JakartaEE10ReleasePlan
Wiki https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-platform/wiki/JakartaEE10
Mentors will be assigned for the Release Reviews, based on assignments from Plan Reviews
How to handle updates for specs that will only update their API (Module Info) like Bean Validation?
Proposal is to do a Service Release (provided there are no other changes)
Something like the signature (module info) test could do a verification step, Platform Project to confirm
Agreed that we do not need the full ceremony of a Release Review - Updated Spec & TCK, CI and passed TCK results
Reference - https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/issues/741
Scheduling of future meetings
Ratify proposal made in the September 22nd call to revert the time for all Specification Committee calls back to 16:00 UTC, previously it was decided to alternate the start time of the call between 13:00 UTC and 16:00 UTC to increase participation from Asian members, it was commented that participation in the 13:00 calls is lower and in particular we miss the reps from the US west coast
Are there any objections? No objections. Call will revert back to 16:00 UTC on a biweekly basis.
Jakarta EE Spec Committee input to the 2022 Program Plan on the topic of
Release Simplification
Initiatives can and will be organic and situational… this is BAU
Current focus is on the automation POC which is ongoing
TCK refactoring is underway and will continue in 2022
Implementation Neutrality
Progress was made in 9.1, and the Spec Committee’s resolution to not add and new optional features in EE 10
What about the existing optional features and providing for the sum of the implementations to satisfy the requirement to test all optional features?
A proof point is when other CI’s can be used for ratification of the Platform or Web Profile spec besides Glassfish
Reminder October 19th is the Jakarta EE working group (members) call, and the week on October 13th is the community-wide call.
13th call - Release 10 update or progress on individual specifications
19th call’s focus Program Plan, request working group input on activities for 2022
Suggestion for future committee seat elections, publish the results broadly and include a reminder that more candidates is a good thing