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[jakarta.ee-spec] Jakarta EE Spec Committee Approved Meeting Minutes - February 24th, 2021

Jakarta EE Spec Committee - February 24th, 2021

Attendees (present in bold):


Kenji Kazumura - Fujitsu

Dan Bandera - IBM - Kevin Sutter, Tom Watson (guest)

Ed Bratt - Oracle - Dmitry Kornilov

Andrew Pielage - Payara - Matt Gill

Scott Stark - Red Hat - Mark Little, Scott Marlow

David Blevins - Tomitribe - Jean-Louis Monteiro, Cesar Hernandez

Ivar Grimstad - PMC Representative

Marcelo Ancelmo - Participant Member - Martijn Verburg

Werner Keil - Committer Member

Jun Qian - Primeton - Enterprise Member 

 

Eclipse Foundation: Wayne Beaton, Tanja Obradovic, Paul Buck (chair)

References: JESP, Spec Committee page including approved meeting minutes


Past business / action items:

  • Approval is requested for the meeting minutes from the February 10th meeting as drafted - Approved.


Agenda:

  • Welcome new Specification Committee, Enterprise Member rep, Jun Qian  from Primeton!

  • Ongoing tracking spreadsheet of individual specs progress through the JESP

    • Jakarta EE 9.1 Plan Review ballot complete and approved.

    • Jakarta EE 10 - Deadline for projects to start Plan Reviews is April 15th

  • [Request] Implementation Neutrality presentation and proposed next steps.  Relevant to these conversations

    • Marking the implementations used for ratification [A.]

    • Listing or not “other” implementations [B.]

    • Advance Implementation Neutrality - See slide 7 [C.]

    • Health and activity of our specification projects [D.]

David was able to get part way through his presentation, we will continue on the next call. The relevant agenda items noted above were also deferred.

Kevin will send out a resolution and call for voting on the mailing list for approval, once approved it will be over to the Steering Committee for ratification.

Update to follow vote on on the JESP.

  • A. Marking the implementation on a spec page to denote it was used for the ratification ballot

    • Proposal: Option 3: Link separately with the other resources associated with the spec

    • https://github.com/jakartaee/specifications/pull/329

    • Also see jakarta.ee-spec mailing list archive

    • B. Note: In previous discussions the Specification Committee decided to not list “other” compatible implementations of the Platform or Web Profile specifications, a link will be added to the respective spec project pages to the Jakarta EE Compatible Products page.

Topic deferred until the next call

  • Review and discuss Jakarta EE 9 Specification Committee EE 9 Retrospective 

See follow-up action for the Release Simplification topic.

  • Specification Committee’s input for the in the Jakarta EE Program Plan - Quarterly Progress

    • Simplify Release Process objective- See slides 5 & 6

      • For Q1 this item was added - Infra required for concurrent testing Java 8 and Java 11 support starting w/ EE 9.1. See draft proposal from Scott Marlow is here.

        • Check the latest resource utilization reports. Not clear we are resource starved at this point. 12 hours → 6 hours with more resources.

The TCK resource reports are here.

  • Can extra resources be allocated during heavy release periods? Can resources be allocated from AWS, Google Cloud or Azure?

Paul to set up a call with Scott Marlow and Eclipse Foundation Infra team

  • The committee will review the retrospective and identify items for Q2, Q3 and Q4.

Kevin and Paul to review the actions in the retrospective and release simplification notes to identify themes and to organize the items. Further discussion and alignment to proceed on the mailing list. 

  • C. Advance Implementation Neutrality - See slide 7

    • Also see row 13 in the Program Plan tracking spreadsheet

Topic deferred to the next call

Topic deferred until the next call



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