Re: [jakarta.ee-community] About Profiles

[Adam Bien <abien@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Dominik,

+1.  As a Java EE user I absolutely share your opinion. No profiles, no confusion.
However: for vendors profiles introduce the opportunity to cut the legacy stuff.

I guess we should start with:

Main Profile: -> without SOAP, after alignment between CDI and EJB, without EJBs etc.
Legacy Profile: -> would contain everything, basically identical to current full profile.

The goal is: keep the main profile as lean as possible and be aggressive with long term deprecation. 
New projects would start with the main profile and older could still use the legacy profile. 

What about that?

cheers,

adam




> On 17. May 2018, at 00:16, Dominik Hufnagel <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> As a user of JavaEE, I do not get the idea behind having multiple profiles. May someone can explain the benefits for users? If I can have a single profile with all available features, I would take it and I do not bother using a server which is 50MB larger of one with a „smaller“ profile. I can understand that it could be harder for vendors to enter the market having to provide the full profile. But for me, this would not be an argument for using smaller profiles. I’d rather take a server from a vendor which offers me the full profile. 
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> If I would use the MicroProfile and want to have JPA, do I have to add external dependencies? I really like some of the new APIs of the MicroProfile and would be happy to see them coming to JakartaEE.
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> Dominik
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> Von: jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Mark Little
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Mai 2018 11:42
> An: Jakarta EE community discussions <jakarta.ee-community@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Betreff: Re: [jakarta.ee-community] About Profiles
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> Hopefully others have responded already but … it’s for both: quick summary … vendors so they can ensure conformance and users so they can ensure portability and interoperability of their apps.
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> Speaking with my MicroProfile hat on, I for one would not want to trade the current MicroProfile for a full Jakarta EE profile and neither would our users.
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> Mark.
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>> On 7 May 2018, at 17:33, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> So then the first question is perhaps; who wants profiles and benefits from it? Is a profile intended for vendors or for users?
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