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Re: [jakarta.ee-community] Why not dropping EARs in Jakarta EE?

Compose-ability is key in order to produce slim(er) runtimes. The problem is you cannot test arbitrary/infinite combinations of components, you can only settle on testing some popular/useful ones (aka profiles).

/Dimitris

On 28/04/2018 17:33, Guillermo González de Agüero wrote:
Hi,

I see little reasons to use EARs on new projects and some specs (CDI at least) have suffered difficulties from their class visibility particularities.

Please note the Web Profile already supports only WAR deployment and also leave behind some less frequently used technologies.

Implementors will have more elaborated oponions, but I think EARs should be deprecated (not removed) and made optional on some specific profile in the near future.

Times are changing and for Jakarta EE to be perceived as a lean technology we will need some kind of composable profile (think of WildFly Swarm or Liberty) or "legacy-free" profile (I think Payara had some plans for that).

El sáb., 28 abr. 2018 10:07, Ralph Soika <ralph.soika@xxxxxxxxx> escribió:

Hi,

to my background: I have been developing enterprise applications for more than 10 years, mostly as EARs. So I am mainly a User of EE and was never part of a EE working group. My opinion about EARs after years is: It's an awful disaster if you're trying to develop an ear platform independently. So why should it be called 'standard'?

Today I wonder what can be achieved with an EAR, which could not be achieved easier and clearer with a clean microservice architecture?

So I'm suggesting removing EAR support from Jakarta EE. This makes the platform easier to learn and more lightweight.

If you like, you can read the following discussion. It's about the question of how to package shared EJB libraries in one ear. And it shows how awkward it is to talk about EAR deployment questions. 
https://github.com/payara/Payara/issues/2508#issuecomment-385129757

What is your opinion about the future support of the concept of EAR?

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Ralph


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