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On 01/14/2016 06:04 PM, Mike Milinkovich wrote:
On behalf of the EMO, I can confirm that gcc would be considered
an exempt pre-req :)
Is there any list which sums up all already discussed dependencies?
So from the guidelines document I do know that e.g. the JRE is
already been considered a exempt pre-req. gcc seems to be similar.
However I am not aware of a formal list, where new projects can have
a look at to simply find that out. With more C/C++ based
contributions in the future in do think that a set of dependencies
like GCC, glibc, the Visual C/C++ compiler, MSVCRT (microsoft libc),
the .NET runtime ... all else could be formally approved or
disapproved. So that in the future we don't need to do this one by
one.
Or is it the right time to start that list now?
Jens
On 14/01/2016 11:50 AM, Ian Craggs wrote:
Hi Jens,
thanks for your response. In the case of the embedded client,
in some cases (including Linux) we only provide the source, no
binaries. So a compiler is needed to build, and the user must
do that.
Under 4 a), it says 'A prequisite may be classified as "exempt"
by the EMO if the software is pervasive in nature, expected to
be already on the user's machine, and/or an IP review would be
impossible, impractical, or inadvisable'. I think that glibc
and gcc could fall into this category for almost all of those
reasons.
I propose that I create CQs for all dependencies that Paho has,
so that we can hand all of those appropriate to the EMO, en
bloc, rather than in stages. These would include:
- Python: v2 and v3
- Visual Studio: for C and .Net builds
- Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable (runtime for the C client
on Windows)
- .Net runtime
- Arduino compiler and runtime library
- ARM mbed runtime libraries
- FreeRTOS build and runtime
- TI cc3200 build and runtime
Although the embedded client could be built on a large variety
of OSes, I propose we only have CQs for those platforms for
which we actually provide interface code.
Ian
On 01/14/2016 03:20 PM, Jens
Reimann wrote:
Hello Ian & PMC,
I just checked the Document "GUIDELINES FOR THE REVIEW OF THIRD PARTY
DEPENDENCIES" - 2007 [1]
Under 4a) it lists Windows or Java as such a exempt prerequisite.
However I do think that this does not fully match here. Since GCC is
only required during the build process and not for running the result.
On the other hand glibc is such a requirement. Then again, if there is
no glibc, there probably is not Java either (at least on a Linux-ish
system).
From my point of view I would really like to hand this over to EMO.
What do you think?
Jens
[1]
https://www.eclipse.org/org/documents/Eclipse_Policy_and_Procedure_for_3rd_Party_Dependencies_Final.pdf
On 01/13/2016 01:01 PM, Ian Craggs wrote:
Hello PMC,
as suggested by Julien, that compilers/interpreters should be treated
as any other tools, I've created CQs for Paho works-with dependencies
for gcc and glibc:
https://dev.eclipse.org/ipzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=10655
https://dev.eclipse.org/ipzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=10656
I will create others to cover Visual Studio, Python, the Arduino build
tools, etc, and any others as necessary.
I haven't found any previous CQs to cover any of these subjects, which
I found surprising, if we need them.
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