| Re: [ide-dev] Java IDEs comparison |
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I decided to install Neon and give it a
try for my _javascript_/Typescript
development using the great eclipse installer:  OOPS, so, why does it not show the nice icon used in the installer in my taskbar:  OK, never mind. Let's create and open a JS project. Huh, no code completion or navigation support. Maybe I have to look into the project settings:  Hmm, what can I say... Ok, since I am not really using _javascript_, but Typescript, let's install typescript:  Hm, oh, what to choose here??? Sorry, that's the point where I give up. I don't think I have time now to try 6 different solution for TypeScript to make a decision which one to use... ... I am afraid this will go on an on. If I compare this to the experience of installing JetBrains products, eclipse has a long way to go... Don't get me wrong! I love eclipse and I really wish I could use eclipse for my daily work, but installing a production environment and setting things up for multiple languages is soo painful. I simply don't have the time for doing this and I happily spend 389 Euro/Year for all JetBrain products.... (I would spend that or more an an eclipse based solution if it would be available....) I think it is the forces of the market: JetBrains will run out of business if they don't supply what their customer need. Eclipse on the other hand provides what the bazaar of the open source market can produce. I really, really hope that eclipse conquer back some ground and becomes really strong! There are so many great things in the eclipse eco system that I miss (most of all: mylyn) Michael On 2016-09-09 15:09, Michael Scharf wrote: For the last 3 years I have mostly been using PyCharm and Webstorm for web development. Here are the things I think Jetbrais is doing significantly better than eclipse: Configuration/Update -------------------- I am still using Mars, because I have a set of plugins and from experience, setting up a new version of eclipse is a major pain. In particular, if I want to keep all the plugins that I am currently using. In the last 15 years or so, I have spent quite few man-months messing with installing and finding eclipse plugins and configurations. With JetBrains products upgrading to a new version has been seamless so far. Finding extension wit Jetbrains is easy: there just one place to search for them. Installing plugins is like clicking a checkbox on a list. I have not had any problems installing or updating plugins with Jetbrains IDEs. And for some reasons I have much less desire to install plugins because the products come with "batteries included" and unlike eclipse there are not many competing solutions to choose from for a particular requirement. Just try to figure out what to install to get world class _javascript_/html support in eclipse. Views and Perspectives ---------------------- In my eclipse installation I can choose between 150+ Views and 18 Perspectives. Installing new features add new perspectives and views. And it become **very** difficult to figure out which view and menu entry belongs to which feature. My Webstorm has about 10 views and that's all I need. I don't even know where to find/add new views. Multi Language support ---------------------- In jetbrains, there is (or at least it feels like) one edtor that can handle different languages and navigation between different languages is so natural that you don't realize it. Exclusion of files and folders ------------------------------- In Jetbrains IDEs it is very easy to exclude folders form being parsed. Michael On 2016-09-07 15:51, Mickael Istria wrote:http://www.itworld.com/article/3114167/development-tools/choosing-your-java-ide.html#tk.rss_opensourcetools Nothing really new out there. It's surprising how the code completion of IntelliJ (checking target type, frequency of calls, chain completion...) is still listed as better than the one in Eclipse IDE. Wasn't Code Recommender providing that in all Java-based packages? Also, it's strange that IJ is congratulated for its "Polyglot development", where the Eclipse ecosystem has a much better offering. The reason is probably that people compare IDEs as they're shipped, not ecosystem. -- Mickael Istria Eclipse developer at JBoss, by Red Hat <http://www.jboss.org/tools> My blog <http://mickaelistria.wordpress.com> - My Tweets <http://twitter.com/mickaelistria> _______________________________________________ ide-dev mailing list ide-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from this list, visit https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/ide-dev_______________________________________________ ide-dev mailing list ide-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from this list, visit https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/ide-dev
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