Ah, that was the other part of my story I edited out.
Yeah, you see the nice orange Downloads button and it takes you to our Downloads page. But I always like to get a bit of an overview on the thing I'm downloading before I do to make sure I'm not wasting my time and bandwidth.
So I click on the Eclipse for Java EE IDE link (I'm not doing EE but it's the first Java IDE I saw - true story, one of the young guys on our team just did that), and I get this:
Some times I feel like when I do a Gerrit push on a neat new feature, that I'm pushing it into /dev/null. It's a fundamental flaw that's always been with Eclipse. It's not a product. I don't know why we expect it to be a product. You download it and use it, it feels like a product and maybe that's why it confuses people. But a product includes trying hard to get new customers and keep customers happy, great marketing and support. But in open source, that's not really a thing, because that costs money and the link between happy customers of an open source product to the members who pay for that is too long, only extreme visionaries and fans get it.
Anyway, again, I'm ranting. I need to get back to my CDT for Qt feature that I know my commercial customers will appreciate and hopefully open source ones do too, assuming they can find it, so we lose the sigma that you can't build Qt apps with Eclipse so that my commercial customers will feel it worth giving it a try and feel that I'm giving them value with our Eclipse based tools...
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