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Re: [glassfish-dev] Tracking usage data for EE4J working group CI cloud systems

Hi,

A few remarks here: just repeating the startup of GF doesn't seem to work. The test jobs for the GF build themselves already do that. It repeats the entire test 3 times. I've never ever seen it work after the second or third repeat. 

Yet, starting the entire process does get it to pass.

This leads me to believe it's something in the Kubernetes pod and/or Docker container that gets corrupted. Once this corruption happens, GF will always fail to startup.

Please see this issue about this: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=561229

It discusses the problem from the Jenkins/Kubernetes point of view. There's a few odd things in the Kubernetes setup which may have to be looked at first.

Kind regards,
Arjan Tijms










On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 5:41 PM Scott Marlow <smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


On 10/1/20 10:48 AM, Ed Bratt wrote:
> I wasn't intending to point any fingers at the stability observations
> you made -- only to observe that we want to focus on improving the
> reliability so that we don't need to rely on re-runs, or waits, or other
> symptomatic only type fixes.

I agree 100%!  I don't think that we need to make the memory tuning
changes just yet, as they will not improve reliability.

> One day, I'd like to see that we can
> initiate several test runs simultaneously -- and they all reliably
> complete -- perhaps taking more clock-time, but reliably and
> consistently repeating. 

+1

>
> Ideally, we could fill this compute pipeline with running and waiting
> tasks and be confident that the system will reliably produce, consistent
> results. It sounds like, for some unknown cause, we aren't there yet.
> Getting to the root cause of this would be my priority (and we don't
> know if that's a GlassFish issue, an infrastructure issue or even
> something else). But, I'm not actually doing the work so, it's just my
> opinion.

+1

Part of the original discussion related to
https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/glassfish/issues/23191 suggested adding
a --verbose --debug options which I tried on my local machine (as I can
reproduce a similar symptom that could be the same as on CI), I would
see `org.glassfish.flashlight.MonitoringRuntimeDataRegistry not found by
org.glassfish.main.admin.monitoring-core` as shown on
https://gist.github.com/scottmarlow/eec11ca74b99d021346b270fa29ce4fa
(which has the full server output including error exceptions).

I'm thinking that we could try to reproduce the failure on Jenkins with
the --verbose --debug options so that we see the actual cause on
Jenkins.  Perhaps it will be the same exception call stack as I see locally.

I don't know the code involved in the
https://gist.github.com/scottmarlow/eec11ca74b99d021346b270fa29ce4fa
exception call stack enough to debug and find the cause.  If you open
this gist, please search for `java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
org.glassfish.flashlight.MonitoringRuntimeDataRegistry not found by
org.glassfish.main.admin.monitoring-core` which kind of seemed like a
startup race condition but I have no idea really.

Scott

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