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Re: [epp-dev] Files for release mirrors to have time
  • From: Frederic Gurr <frederic.gurr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 15:31:21 +0100
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Hi Jonah,

Even though it's also on my "TODO after the release" list, I usually
create the <next_release> folder shortly before 10am EDT to avoid that
Ed sends a message 2 minutes after the release asking for it. ;P

We should try to synchronize the Jenkins jobs (similar to the
makeVisible jobs).

Regards,

Fred

On 18.03.20 15:08, Jonah Graham wrote:
> Thanks Ed,
> 
> My checklist says to create technology/epp/packages/2020-06 immediately
> after release, so I am in the midst of doing that now. Would you prefer
> it is created earlier for the next release? If so, when? I guess at the
> same time that releases/2020-06 is created? @*Fred*, when is that?
> 
> Jonah
> 
> ~~~
> Jonah Graham
> Kichwa Coders
> www.kichwacoders.com <http://www.kichwacoders.com>
> 
> 
> On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 at 10:05, Ed Merks <ed.merks@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:ed.merks@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     Jonah,
> 
>     I've been able to install the C/C++ IDE with the released installer
>     and the current repositories.   Mirrors are in place for both the
>     train and EPP repos.
> 
>     Note that the already already exists now
> 
>     https://download.eclipse.org/releases/2020-06/
> 
>     But this does not:
> 
>         <child location='../../technology/epp/packages/2020-06' />
> 
>     This is not totally urgent, but once that is in place (to compose
>     the 2020-03 simple EPP repo), I can regenerate to prime the pumps
>     for 2020-06.
> 
>     Thanks, thanks, thanks again and again!!!
> 
>     Regards,
>     Ed
> 
>     On 18.03.2020 14:33, Jonah Graham wrote:
>>     Thank you Denis.
>>
>>     Ed, do things look right now?
>>
>>     Jonah
>>     ~~~
>>     Jonah Graham
>>     Kichwa Coders
>>     www.kichwacoders.com <http://www.kichwacoders.com>
>>
>>
>>     On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 at 09:31, Denis Roy
>>     <denis.roy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>     <mailto:denis.roy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>>         I've just cleared all the caches.
>>
>>
>>         Denis
>>
>>         On 2020-03-18 9:26 a.m., Jonah Graham wrote:
>>>         :-(
>>>
>>>         I am looking at this now to see if I can understand.
>>>         Denis/Webmaster if you can help that would be great as I
>>>         don't understand how different clients are getting different
>>>         responses.
>>>
>>>         Jonah
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         ~~~
>>>         Jonah Graham
>>>         Kichwa Coders
>>>         www.kichwacoders.com <http://www.kichwacoders.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>         On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 at 09:16, Ed Merks <ed.merks@xxxxxxxxx
>>>         <mailto:ed.merks@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>
>>>             Jonah,
>>>
>>>             The problem from
>>>             https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=548497#c29
>>>             is happening again:
>>>
>>>             $curl -O
>>>             http://download.eclipse.org/technology/epp/packages/2020-03/compositeContent.jar
>>>               % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time   
>>>             Time     Time  Current
>>>                                              Dload  Upload   Total  
>>>             Spent    Left  Speed
>>>             100   429  100   429    0     0   1618      0 --:--:--
>>>             --:--:-- --:--:--  1618
>>>
>>>             $curl -I
>>>             http://download.eclipse.org/technology/epp/packages/2020-03/compositeContent.jar
>>>               % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time   
>>>             Time     Time  Current
>>>                                              Dload  Upload   Total  
>>>             Spent    Left  Speed
>>>               0   429    0     0    0     0      0      0 --:--:--
>>>             --:--:-- --:--:--     0HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>>>             Server: nginx
>>>             Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 13:06:13 GMT
>>>             Content-Type: application/x-java-archive
>>>             Content-Length: 429
>>>             Connection: keep-alive
>>>             Last-Modified: Fri, 06 Mar 2020 14:22:22 GMT
>>>             ETag: "1ad-5a03061c70fb5"
>>>             X-NodeID: download2
>>>             X-Proxy-Cache: STALE
>>>             Accept-Ranges: bytes
>>>
>>>             When I do this it bypasses the cache:
>>>
>>>             $curl -I --header "X-Cache-Bypass: true"
>>>             http://download.eclipse.org/technology/epp/packages/2020-03/compositeContent.jar
>>>               % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time   
>>>             Time     Time  Current
>>>                                              Dload  Upload   Total  
>>>             Spent    Left  Speed
>>>               0     0    0     0    0     0      0      0 --:--:--
>>>             --:--:-- --:--:--     0HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
>>>             Server: nginx
>>>             Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 13:09:15 GMT
>>>             Content-Type: text/html
>>>             Connection: keep-alive
>>>             Vary: Accept-Encoding
>>>             X-NodeID: download2
>>>
>>>             But a subsequent call still returns it as existing so it
>>>             does not flush the cache:
>>>
>>>             $curl -I
>>>             http://download.eclipse.org/technology/epp/packages/2020-03/compositeContent.jar
>>>               % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time   
>>>             Time     Time  Current
>>>                                              Dload  Upload   Total  
>>>             Spent    Left  Speed
>>>               0   429    0     0    0     0      0      0 --:--:--
>>>             --:--:-- --:--:--     0HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>>>             Server: nginx
>>>             Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 13:09:21 GMT
>>>             Content-Type: application/x-java-archive
>>>             Content-Length: 429
>>>             Connection: keep-alive
>>>             Last-Modified: Fri, 06 Mar 2020 14:22:22 GMT
>>>             ETag: "1ad-5a03061c70fb5"
>>>             X-NodeID: download2
>>>             X-Proxy-Cache: STALE
>>>             Accept-Ranges: bytes
>>>
>>>             Both compositeContent.jar and compositeArtifacts.jar need
>>>             to yield 404 for a HEAD request...
>>>
>>>             Note how it says "X-Proxy-Cache: STALE" in each case.
>>>
>>>             Several calls like this:
>>>
>>>             $curl -I
>>>             http://download.eclipse.org/technology/epp/packages/2020-03/content.jar
>>>               % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time   
>>>             Time     Time  Current
>>>                                              Dload  Upload   Total  
>>>             Spent    Left  Speed
>>>               0 77058    0     0    0     0      0      0 --:--:--
>>>             --:--:-- --:--:--     0HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>>>             Server: nginx
>>>             Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 13:15:15 GMT
>>>             Content-Type: application/x-java-archive
>>>             Content-Length: 77058
>>>             Connection: keep-alive
>>>             Last-Modified: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 11:19:04 GMT
>>>             ETag: "12d02-5a10b1a79ee91"
>>>             X-NodeID: download2
>>>             X-Proxy-Cache: HIT
>>>             Accept-Ranges: bytes
>>>
>>>             Show "X-Proxy-Cache: HIT".
>>>
>>>             I think both those files were deleted two hours ago.
>>>
>>>             Regards,
>>>             Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>             On 18.03.2020 13:22, Jonah Graham wrote:
>>>>             I believe everything is now in place for the release
>>>>             *except* that I and CI user cannot touch the
>>>>             directory so that mirrors are working for p2. See
>>>>             Bug 561215
>>>>             <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=561215>
>>>>
>>>>             Thanks,
>>>>             Jonah
>>>>
>>>>             ~~~
>>>>             Jonah Graham
>>>>             Kichwa Coders
>>>>             www.kichwacoders.com <http://www.kichwacoders.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 at 09:55, Denis Roy
>>>>             <denis.roy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>             <mailto:denis.roy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                 For completeness... Ed's assessment of file
>>>>                 timestamps vs. directory is spot on, since p2
>>>>                 typically uses the directory as the mirrorsURL
>>>>                 parameter.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 Denis
>>>>
>>>>                 On 2020-03-17 1:20 a.m., Ed Merks wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Markus,
>>>>>
>>>>>                 I believe that the server's general approach via
>>>>>                 download.php  is to consider the time stamp of the
>>>>>                 local file versus its timestamp on the mirror.  If
>>>>>                 they match, the mirror is a good one and will be
>>>>>                 returned in the list.  For the download folder, I
>>>>>                 expect the timestamp is not so important because
>>>>>                 only individual files will be downloaded from it.
>>>>>                 E.g., for this link, the timestamp of the file is
>>>>>                 important, but not the timestamps of any of the
>>>>>                 parent folders:
>>>>>
>>>>>                 https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/technology/epp/downloads/release/2019-12/R/eclipse-jee-2019-12-R-win32-x86_64.zip
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Of course that's just a "theory"...
>>>>>
>>>>>                 But for the repository itself, this URL is used by p2:
>>>>>
>>>>>                 https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?format=xml&file=/technology/epp/packages/2020-03&countryCode=us&timeZone=1&format=xml
>>>>>
>>>>>                 And here the timestamp of the 2020-03 folder itself
>>>>>                 is definitely important.
>>>>>
>>>>>                 That all being said, an install will only need to
>>>>>                 download 4 artifacts from the EPP repo, while
>>>>>                 needing to download 100s from the train repo, so if
>>>>>                 there were no mirrors for the EPP repo, it would
>>>>>                 not cause such a huge problem as it does when there
>>>>>                 are no mirrors for the train repo. That repo
>>>>>                 already exists and has many mirrors:
>>>>>
>>>>>                 https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?format=xml&file=/releases/2020-03/202003181000&countryCode=us&timeZone=1&format=xml
>>>>>
>>>>>                 In less than 24 hours, this also appears to be
>>>>>                 fully mirrored:
>>>>>
>>>>>                 https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/oomph/epp/2020-03/R/eclipse-inst-win64.exe&countryCode=us&timeZone=1&format=xml
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Regards,
>>>>>                 Ed
>>>>>
>>>>>                 On 16.03.2020 21:31, Markus Knauer wrote:
>>>>>>                 You are right. I used to be very careful with the
>>>>>>                 modification times of files and directories,
>>>>>>                 especially the download directories are important.
>>>>>>                 I got used to using my TIMESTAMP files that can be
>>>>>>                 found here and there on the download server,
>>>>>>                 usually in commands like
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                   touch -r . TIMESTAMP
>>>>>>                   touch -r TIMESTAMP .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 to "store" the modification times of the current
>>>>>>                 working directory, and to use it afterwards to
>>>>>>                 copy the very same modification time back to it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 Regards,
>>>>>>                 Markus
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 at 17:23, Ed Merks
>>>>>>                 <ed.merks@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:ed.merks@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>                 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     For last year's March release, the installer
>>>>>>                     was downloaded almost 3 million times, and the
>>>>>>                     packages themselves in total more than 1
>>>>>>                     million times. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                      
>>>>>>                     https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/release/2019-03/r
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     Of course it's not clear over which time
>>>>>>                     period that happened, but there's always quite
>>>>>>                     a bit of activity the day of and the days
>>>>>>                     after...  The mirror failures right after the
>>>>>>                     most 2019-12 release certainly brought that
>>>>>>                     download server to its knees enough to take
>>>>>>                     note that there was an ongoing problem.  And
>>>>>>                     that's in December, close to Christmas time,
>>>>>>                     when you wouldn't expect quite so much either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     That's all to say that I very much appreciate
>>>>>>                     Jonah being conservative on this front.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     Note too that I see that the mirrors are back now!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                      
>>>>>>                     https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?format=xml&file=/releases/2020-03/202003181000&countryCode=us&timeZone=1&format=xml
>>>>>>                      
>>>>>>                     https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?format=xml&file=/technology/epp/packages/2020-03/RC2a&countryCode=us&timeZone=1&format=xml
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     There are not so many mirrors for this yet:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                      
>>>>>>                     https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/oomph/epp/2020-03/R/eclipse-inst-win64.exe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     But that's after only a few hours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     Now that I'm thinking about it though, we
>>>>>>                     should be careful what happens to the
>>>>>>                     timestamp of the EPP folder and the train
>>>>>>                     folder when the content/artifacts change just
>>>>>>                     minutes before the release.  If the folder's
>>>>>>                     timestamp changes, I believe all the mirrors
>>>>>>                     will be disabled again for a while...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     Regards,
>>>>>>                     Ed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     On 16.03.2020 16:42, Markus Knauer wrote:
>>>>>>>                     Full agreement... 24h is typically enough.
>>>>>>>                     Sometimes, if it was really urgent in the
>>>>>>>                     past, I double-checked with Denis and the
>>>>>>>                     webmasters in order to make them aware that
>>>>>>>                     there may be a download peak. On the other
>>>>>>>                     hand, the peaks are not that high (especially
>>>>>>>                     for a March release) than they used to be.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     And yes, I would definitely vote for the RC2a
>>>>>>>                     version (without aeri).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     Regards,
>>>>>>>                     Markus
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 at 16:07, Jonah Graham
>>>>>>>                     <jonah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>                     <mailto:jonah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         On Mon., Mar. 16, 2020, 10:54 Ed Merks,
>>>>>>>                         <ed.merks@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>                         <mailto:ed.merks@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                             Jonah,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                             I believe 24 hours is normally more
>>>>>>>                             than enough, though the problem in
>>>>>>>                             https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=561125
>>>>>>>                             is still a problem so sooner is
>>>>>>>                             probably better than later.   I feel
>>>>>>>                             that it's safe to assume that RC2a
>>>>>>>                             versus RC2 will be good because the
>>>>>>>                             difference is really very trivial and
>>>>>>>                             I've confirmed that the Java, JEE and
>>>>>>>                             RCP packages installed from this
>>>>>>>                             basis via the installer start up fine...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         Thanks Ed for confirming. I will do the
>>>>>>>                         downloads this evening (Ottawa time) 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                             Note that if you're going to
>>>>>>>                             transform the EPP repo into a simple
>>>>>>>                             repository, you should get
>>>>>>>                             the binary/features/plugins  folders
>>>>>>>                             copied up into the 2020-03 folder in
>>>>>>>                             preparation as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         I will place all
>>>>>>>                         the binary/features/plugins files in
>>>>>>>                         place too, leaving just the artifacts and
>>>>>>>                         content files to be updated Wed morning. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         I will ensure that the composites are
>>>>>>>                         retuning 404 in time for the release too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         Thanks, 
>>>>>>>                         Jonah 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                             Thanks for all the heavy lifting!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                             Regards,
>>>>>>>                             Ed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                             On 16.03.2020 15:42, Jonah Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>                             Hi folks, 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             When do the files need to be in
>>>>>>>>                             place for release day? I assume
>>>>>>>>                             today is better than tomorrow. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             In that case we need to have RC2a vs
>>>>>>>>                             RC2 decision ASAP. If I don't hear
>>>>>>>>                             anything further I will be making
>>>>>>>>                             the RC2a files the R files. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             Thanks, 
>>>>>>>>                             Jonah 
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>                 *Denis Roy*
>>>>
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>>
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