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Re: [emf-dev] Re: [emft-dev] [Fwd: Re: [eclipse.org-planning-council] XML Project Plans]
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Re: N&N:
Most projects have chosen to take the time to advertise to adopters
what's new in their latest release. The "we're too busy to bother"
approach is another way, but if you don't market your new features,
fewer people will know about them. If "marketing" is a taboo word,
consider "advertising", "documentation", or "evangelism." :)
So, you'll notice in the wiki some projects have actual N&N per
component, others have per-project (but updated per-milestone rather
than per-release), and still others have "see the release notes" pages.
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Category:EMF
http://wiki.eclipse.org/EMF/EMF_2.3/New_and_Noteworthy
http://wiki.eclipse.org/EMF/EMF_2.4/New_and_Noteworthy
http://wiki.eclipse.org/EMF/MQ%2C_MT%2C_and_VF_1.1/New_and_Noteworthy
http://wiki.eclipse.org/EMF/MQ%2C_MT%2C_and_VF_1.2/New_and_Noteworthy
http://wiki.eclipse.org/EMF/Net4j_1.0/New_and_Noteworthy
http://wiki.eclipse.org/EMF/CDO_1.0/New_and_Noteworthy
http://wiki.eclipse.org/EMF/Teneo_1.0/New_and_Noteworthy
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Model_Development_Tools_(MDT)#Planning
http://wiki.eclipse.org/MDT_1.0_New_and_Noteworthy
http://wiki.eclipse.org/MDT_1.1_New_and_Noteworthy
http://wiki.eclipse.org/M2T_New_and_Noteworthy
This is your opportunity to grow your user base (and, if you're doing
N&N every milestone, to encourage early adopters). Don't waste it!
--
As to themes, I like "More With Less", which can be interpreted in
numerous (and humorous) ways, and still sounds like an admirable goal
even if it's partly touch-in-cheek. :)
Nick
Ed Merks wrote:
Eike,
Comments below.
Eike Stepper wrote:
Hi,
I have a couple of questions:
-
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Development_Resources/Project_Plan#Bugs_as_Plan_Items
requires me to think about themes. Who benefits from this? Can I
specifiy a single dummy theme, too?
In the past, the platform itself had high level themes and we were all
expected to conform to those. I wasn't happy with an approach where
the themes were dictated to us with no input from us and we simply
paid lip service to them to conform. So now you can define your own
themes. I'm still not sure the benefit of them. :-P "Faster and
Better" seems like a good theme failing anything more detailed...
- The management of target milestones becomes necessary, too. What
can I do if the fix of a bug is applied (merged) to several branches?
It's generally a good idea (at least the way Nick has release notes
managed) that when you commit changes you do so against a specific bug
and that when done, that set of changes is complete. Open a new
smaller bug and make the "main" one be blocked by it if necessary, to
represent increments of progress on a larger problem.
- Is it enough to specifiy the next release instead of smaller
milestones (M1, M2, ...)? The ones I'd need are not in the list...
Nick has suggested having just M1-M6 and RC1-RC7 without version
numbers so that everyone could reuse them. Other folks didn't like
that idea, though it seemed sound to me. It's easy to add these
things directly ourselves. I can grant access to do this yourself via
the portal's committer tools if you don't already have that permission.
- How are the component-level plans merged into a combined
project-level plan? I can't enter a plan URL for components in the
portal meta data...
Well, that's a bit of a problem. The new development process allows
us to turn out components into projects but the infrastructure for
that hasn't caught up. I definitely want to turn all the EMF and EMFT
components into projects and expect that MDT will do the same. So I'm
expecting not have to merge plans. The foundation's infrastructure
will just need to catch up...
- Is there more semantic description of the various elements and
attributes? (Which stuff is optional/mandatory, what is the meaning
of...)
Not so much. What you see is all you get.
- I'm missing a New&Noteworthy section (better: per milestone) to
support content like this: http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/new
So far we've just done the automatic release notes as our New and
Noteworthy (which is still better than most projects are doing). We
can try to improve this to better advertise the cool new things we're
doing...
Ed Merks schrieb:
Just a reminder that plans are due at the end of the month. I'm
unfortunately behind on this myself. I expect components to create
a per-component plan as if you were a project, which you soon will
be under the newly approved development process, so no one is
exempt. A minimal bare bones plan is fine. See the attached note
for details. Do not follow my bad example and delay until the last
minute! I'll try to set a better example in the coming week...
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