Re: [ejb-dev] How can we best make the EJB30 tests that use Corba option

["Kevin Sutter" <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx>]

>  In
January everyone was asked to confirm that their runtimes could live without
it in Java 11 so we could confidently proceed with saying it was no longer
required.

I didn't think
we (Open Liberty) had agreed to this.  Every time I have talked to
Tracy about this, the use of PRO.narrow was a requirement.  But, maybe
something got lost in translation, or something.  I do know we indicated
that we worked around the requirement by using the open-source version
of PRO.narrow.  That's documented in our Platform meeting minutes.
 But, I do not remember indicating that we could live with removing
it from the Spec.

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From:
       David
Blevins <david.blevins@xxxxxxxxx>
To:
       ejb
developer discussions <ejb-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:
       02/25/2021
14:56
Subject:
       [EXTERNAL]
Re: [ejb-dev] How can we best make the EJB30 tests that use Corba optional
but still require other non-Corba tests to be run?
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> On Feb 25, 2021, at 12:25 PM,
Kevin Sutter <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> >  B. PortableRemoteObject.narrow is removed, required for
no one, and failures can be fixed in the servers that use CORBA
> 
> I do not agree with this approach for Jakarta EE 9.1.  We have
decided that 9.1 was only going to affect the Platform Spec to clear up
the Java SE 8 vs 11 usage, and to clear up this CORBA optional usage.  Removing
PRO.narrow is too much for the 9.1 release.  Wouldn't this affect
the EJB spec as well as the Platform spec?  And, would it also affect
the APIs?  As your statement states, the affected servers would need
to be modified to resolve the missing PRO.narrow requirement.  I think
that is asking too much.

Both EJB 4 and Platform 9 specs have PRO.narrow as requirement.  Since
the class is not present in Java 11, what we had agreed was to eliminate
that via an update in the platforms spec and to update the EJB spec at
some future date.  There wouldn't have been any technical work, just
spec updates.

In January everyone was asked to confirm that their runtimes could live
without it in Java 11 so we could confidently proceed with saying it was
no longer required.

Since it appears we *do* need users to make this call, the can of worms
is back open.


-David



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