Re: [egit-dev] checking 1.0.0.201106011211-rc3

[Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@xxxxxxxxx>]

For what it's worth, I actually like the change. It make the best use
of space IMHO... we can iterate on the dialog in 1.1 if people have
constructive criticism. It will be hard to please everyone though...

On Jun 6, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Alex Blewitt <alex.blewitt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> The bug is https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=347932, "Please revert EGit commit dialog", raised on Wednesday last week.
>
> Mind you, I'm pretty sure that change snuck in around the middle of last month, right before 1.0, so it's not like there was a great deal of time for anyone to see the new work and provide feedback before the 1.0 release.
>
> commit 4429adcab409c77575fc2c206b97234607c128c5
> Author: Kevin Sawicki <kevin@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Date:   Thu May 19 21:43:53 2011 -0700
>
> Alex
>
> On 6 Jun 2011, at 16:40, Swindells, Thomas wrote:
>
>> I'd have to agree with this thread,
>> Looking at the screenshot (http://wiki.eclipse.org/EGit/New_and_Noteworthy/1.0.0#Commit)
>> I'm not even sure exactly what each of them mean and generally wouldn't notice them.
>> Side by side would seem a good comprimize - these are just as, if not more important/useful than
>> the author/committer details (I'd expect much fewer people to need to change from the default of these).
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: egit-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:egit-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On Behalf Of Robert Munteanu
>>> Sent: 06 June 2011 15:22
>>> To: Alex Blewitt
>>> Cc: EGit developer discussion
>>> Subject: Re: [egit-dev] checking 1.0.0.201106011211-rc3
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Alex Blewitt <alex.blewitt@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 4 Jun 2011, at 23:49, Matthias Sohn <matthias.sohn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The checkboxes were replaced by toggle buttons which isn't really
>>>>> hiding them but leaving some more space for the commit message and
>>> the file list.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, that's the awful UI I was talking about. Everyone knows what a
>>> checkbox means on platforms and can read the explanatory text to learn
>>> how to use the UI. No one knows what a small icon is for, and so won't be
>>> able to learn how to use it unless they already know. Which is a checkbox and
>>> which is an action? A UI is supposed to be intuitive.
>>>
>>> I recently noticed the new and noteworthy screenshots as well, and I think
>>> that the icons might be a little too obscure to be of real use.
>>> I believe that introducing the checkboxes in a 2x2 grid would've reduced the
>>> space taken up by 50% which should be a good enough saving.
>>>
>>> Alex, you mentioned a bug report. Can you please link to it? I hope that even
>>> though we're going to ship 1.0 with the current Commit Dialog layout there is
>>> room for discussion on its future form.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Frankly the UI for EGit's commits sucks in the name of "needing more space
>>> for the commit message". I mean really? Scrolling is a technique when these
>>> things overflow - what you've saved is maybe one or two lines and made it
>>> significantly worse for the new user, not to mention breaking style guidelines
>>> and consistency with every other version control commit dialog.
>>>>
>>>> No doubt it's too late to do anything about it now; maybe it wasn't when I
>>> raised the bug about it earlier on. But I will say it on record that my belief is
>>> that this was a badly executed change (from a UX perspective) with minimal
>>> benefit (optimising for a specific case when there is between old-new lines
>>> of text shown).
>>>>
>>>> Alex
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