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Re: [ee4j-pmc] Graduating EE4J projects
According to the process, a graduation is a review (or results from a graduation review, or something like that). We normally couple them with a release review.

If you believe that Eclipse Krazo is ready for graduation, then we can either schedule a standalone graduation review or combine a graduation review with your next release review (whenever that is). Is Krazo still in active development? Is it time for, say a 1.1 release?

Wayne

On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 1:40 AM Ivar Grimstad <ivar.grimstad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,

Eclipse Krazo released version 1.0.0 earlier this year, so it should probably be on the list of projects being graduated.

Ivar

On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 2:22 AM EMO EMO <emo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks for the input, Ed.

Your response is a good reminder that we have more going on than just the projects that are participating in Jakarta EE 9.

Wayne

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 7:47 PM Ed Bratt <ed.bratt@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

+1 from me, but I'm not a PMC member.

BTW, I presume that there are a few projects that could still be considered incubating or perhaps more correctly, I don't know their status:

  • Cargo Tracker
  • Eclipse Starter for Jakarta EE
  • Examples for Jakarta EE
  • Krazo
  • WaSP
  • MVC
  • NoSQL

I'd be happy to see them graduate as well, I just don't know if these are quite ready. I would presume the remainder are ready. It would be nice to also graduate the Jakarta Stable APIs project as well, even though it's not being updated for Jakarta EE 9.

-- Ed

On 9/29/2020 12:33 PM, Wayne Beaton wrote:
Greetings PMC.

Most of the EE4J projects are still in incubation. I believe that all of them have already engaged in successful releases and that the project teams are getting their legs with regard to the process.

Incubation is essentially a label that says that either the project content is unstable and/or that the project team is still learning the ropes. I don't believe that either of these things is true anymore.

I should probably take this opportunity to admit that I haven't been particularly assertive with regard to incubation branding requirements and what-not (incubating projects are required to indicate their status on their products), so most people probably have no idea what incubation is or why they should care.

With your approval, I'd like to just automatically add a graduation review to all of the forthcoming release reviews on the basis that all of the projects have mature content and their development teams know how to be successful with Eclipse Foundation processes.

Since these projects have been acting mature for some time, this change will have no real impact on the project teams. The primary difference will be that the incubation logo will be removed from the various PMI pages.

There's a bit more in the handbook.


As with everything, the PMC has a say in what constitutes preparedness for graduation. The PMC may choose, for example, to add a requirement that the contributed specification document be fully converted (I don't know the actual state of this). I am happy to help you work out your own graduation criteria.

Wayne

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