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Markus,
I think we all agree with it. I am not sure that we need to do it
now though. Sooner we release Jakarta EE 8 -> better. Top
project reorganization is time consuming. I don't understand what
artificial delays are you talking about. Please clarify.
-- Dmitry
On 05.04.2019 19:52, Markus KARG wrote:
I'm
very much +1 for splitting up into Jakarta EE (= only APIs,
TCKs, Specs) and EE4J (= only products like Jersey) to
clearly tell third party vendors that Jakarta is open for
them and there is no preference for Eclipse products.
Whether there is time for that or not. It is simply
inauthentic for market competitors that e. g. Jersey will
not be preferred as long as it stays under the same PMC than
JAX-RS, and the long artificial delay we had with JAX-RS due
to particularly Jersey requests in the recent GlassFish
release proofs that I am right. Standards MUST be
independent or they are not really norms but just default
choices!
-Markus
Hi,
Just to be clear, it is not Wayne's
proposal. The naming standard has been formed after
discussions among all the members of the Jakarta EE
Working Group Steering Committee and Specification
Committee. You are free to come up with your own
suggestions, but ultimately the names must be approved by
(I would guess) the Specification Committee (maybe also
the Steering Committee).
So, to your proposal. EE4J is more than
just Jakarta EE. It also contains implementations, such as
Jersey. We have discussed splitting out the Jakarta EE
projects to its own PMC and the implementations to its own
but decided against it to avoid losing more time and
introducing another layer of complexity. The topic may
come up in the future though.
In
case we follow Wayne's proposal to get rid of the
"Eclipse Project for" prefix, I'd like to propose to
replace the word "EE4J" by "Jakarta", too.
In
particular it would be great if the URL of the Github
API projects does not read like "…/eclipse-ee4j/…" but
"…/jakarta/…" or "…/eclipse/jakarta/…" instead. :-)
According
to Wayne it is up to the PMC to decide, so I hereby
ask the PMC to decide about that.
-Markus
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