Re: [ee4j-pmc] Short names and URLs

[Ian Robinson <ian_robinson@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Certainly no messing about here before
we are bootstraped, and only if it seems valuable. By "working around"
I mean things we have discussed previously about easy of navigation between
peer projects and now the web sites for those projects. Maybe once we have
progressed the branding name and created web pages associated with this
then an overarching organizational view can be represented here.  

Regards,
Ian

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From:      
 Wayne Beaton <wayne.beaton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:      
 Ian Robinson <ian_robinson@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc:      
 EE4J PMC Discussions
<ee4j-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:      
 14/12/2017 05:13
Subject:    
   Re: [ee4j-pmc]
Short names and URLs

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A hierarchical structure is more work for the project
team. By introducing an extra level of hierarchy, you are introducing extra
projects which require additional management. Just setting them up requires
that you come up with names. What resources are allocated to the organizational
nodes? Do those extra nodes in the hierarchy have their own websites? Who
has what roles on those organizational nodes?

Frankly, it's not all that much more work for me.

What, specifically, are we doing to work around a "flat"
structure?

If there is some demonstrable value in having a hierarchy
within EE4J, we can introduce it. But let's do that after we get what we
have bootstrapped.

Wayne

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 11:46 PM, Ian Robinson <ian_robinson@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Wayne, a hierarchical structure might
be more work for Eclipse but every time we discuss this we seem to end
up trying to work around the flat structure. I don't want to slow us down
by reopening this but I would not be surprised if a year along we found
ourselves needing to do that. There's a level of collective scale here
that a project hierarchy may have a benefit that eclipse has not observed
before 

Regards,
Ian
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Bill Shannon --- Re: [ee4j-pmc] Short names
and URLs ---

From:	"Bill Shannon" <bill.shannon@xxxxxxxxxx>
To:	"Wayne Beaton" <wayne.beaton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc:	"EE4J PMC Discussions" <ee4j-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:	Wed, 13 Dec 2017 22:53
Subject:	Re: [ee4j-pmc] Short names and URLs

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If the web sites for all the EE4J projects were
under http://www.eclipse.org/ee4j/,
that would at least make the naming consistent.  Ditto https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/ee4j/. 
Is there some reason not to do that?

Wayne Beaton wrote on 12/13/17 02:33 PM:
The project space is absolutely a hierarchy. e.g. look
at the "Related Links" on the right of https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/ecd


I tend to argue against making a hierarchy any deeper
than <root>/<tlp>/<project> because making it deeper
adds work that doesn't add value.

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