Hi all
I talked with Doug and Martin. I forward this discussion to here.
So, if the Ganymede gate isn't closed now then I want to join to
Ganymede train.
And I apologize this lazy boarding and my poor English skill.
Shigeki
Thu, 3 Jul 2008 05:21:16 -0700
"Gaff, Doug" <doug.gaff@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:doug.gaff@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Thanks Martin. I forgot that the planning council list was closed.
Shigeki, if you post to cross-projects, I’ll forward a copy to the
planning council to expedite this.
*From:* Oberhuber, Martin
*Sent:* Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:13 AM
*To:* Gaff, Doug; 'Shigeki Moride'
*Subject:* RE: NAB
Hi Shigeki,
please post to the
cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
mailing list as well as the
eclipse.org-planning-council@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:eclipse.org-planning-council@xxxxxxxxxxx>
mailing list.
I know that you are subscribed to cross-project, but I am not
100% sure if you are also subscribed to planning-council.
The planning council list is a "closed" one where you need
to ask the EMO by means of an E-Mail to get subscribed --
you cannot subscribe yourself there.
Cheers,
--
*Martin Oberhuber*, Senior Member of Technical Staff, *Wind River*
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
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*From:* Gaff, Doug
*Sent:* Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:10 PM
*To:* Shigeki Moride
*Cc:* Oberhuber, Martin
*Subject:* RE: NAB
Can you post this to eclipse.org-planning-council today? You
can subscribe here if you’re not already subscribed:
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/eclipse.org-planning-council
I think it may be too late, but let’s see.
*From:* moride.shigeki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:moride.shigeki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Shigeki
Moride
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:45 PM
*To:* Gaff, Doug
*Subject:* Re: NAB
Doug
Sorry, yesterday was a holiday.
Firstly, eclipse.org-planning-council ML is not feeding for me.
So, I think the reason of this fact.
1) I couldn't understand the meaning of Ganymede Must Do #10.
I understand that term as about Ganymede Signoff page on wiki.
Is there any pointer to the issue of *.sc file?
2) I seem Ganymede Build page is only described "automatic
build". I couldn't find the necessity to making *.sc file to
the project that have a builded packages.
3) I feel relief at the passage of the release review.
4) Generally, if that issue was announced on
cross-project-issues-dev or other ML then it is too difficult
to find it. Because that ML have too much traffic to read all
for non-native English reader. I'm sorry about this but this
is a fact. I need help to tracking that discussion. Please
give me a head-up information.
Shigeki
Tue, 1 Jul 2008 06:44:58 -0700
"Gaff, Doug" <doug.gaff@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:doug.gaff@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi Shigeki,
Are you following the discussion on the
eclipse.org-planning-council mailing list? Martin and I
have advocated that you be added to the Ganymede release.
But it’s really time for you to make the case on the list
and explain why you didn’t understand the instructions.
Doug
*From:* Oberhuber, Martin
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:26 AM
*To:* Gaff, Doug
*Subject:* RE: NAB
*Importance:* High
Hi Doug,
I think that Shigeki should have the final word on this.
It doesn't seem
right that we fight for his project, and he doesn't even
care about sending
a single e-mail to the cross-project list. I think he must
have the final
word of either
(a) explaining why he didn't understand the instructions,
and asking for
his project to be picked up, or
(b) withdrawing the request.
After all it's his project and we're just mentoring it,
right? My personal
opinion (and that's for Doug S, Nick and Bjorn) is that
while it seems
absolutely obvious for us build+releng guys that creating
a *.sc file is
required for the Ganymatic, it's not that obvious for
somebody just reading
the "must do's". The original text, already cited by Nick, is:
"Projects must have stated and demonstrated their
intent to join Ganymede by the M4+0 date. Projects do
so by adding themselves to the table/list above and to
the Ganymede common build infrastructure. "
(http://wiki.eclipse.org/Ganymede#Must_Do, #10)
So, Shigeki did add himself to the list, but what the heck
would that
... and to the Ganymede build infrastructure" mean?
I agree that SHigeki can't have been too keen about
joining Ganymede
but it might also be a cultural question.
However, I think he should have the final word, and not you.
Cheers,
--
*Martin Oberhuber*, Senior Member of Technical Staff,
*Wind River*
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
--
Shigeki Moride
moride.shigeki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:moride.shigeki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
moride@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:moride@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
--
Shigeki Moride
moride.shigeki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:moride.shigeki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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