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Re: [eclipse.org-architecture-council] Competition for improving the IDE startup time
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> Performance
work is always challenging and most of it is necessarily focused on measurements.
I can't imagine significant performance improvements resulting from anything
other than a primary focus on
> measurements. A hackathon doesn't seem the
place for doing such work.
+1
Dani
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Date:
13.07.2015 18:49
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Re: [eclipse.org-architecture-council]
Competition for improving the IDE startup time
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Performance work is always challenging and most of it
is necessarily focused on measurements. I can't imagine significant
performance improvements resulting from anything other than a primary focus
on measurements. A hackathon doesn't seem the place for doing such
work.
On 13/07/2015 6:09 PM, Lars Vogel wrote:
Hi Wayne,
Sounds like you thinking of your idea of an extended hackathon
during the confrrence. This might work if you get the correct parties together
for a longer time.
For me personally EclipseCon is usually a very busy time,
not sure if an extended hackathon will work for the other IDE developer.
The stuff I have seems fine during hackathons are usually trivial fixes
and cleanup work.
Best regards, Lars
Am 13.07.2015 5:34 nachm. schrieb "Wayne Beaton"
<wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
I disagree. This sounds like a complex problem with lots
of moving parts. I envision a "hackathon" goal of improving start
up performance in certain scenarios by some target.
I completely forgot to bring this up on the last call, but I'd like to
get the AC to recognize a regular "contributor of the month".
I'm thinking that we make this a regular part of every call to spend ten
minutes (maximum) nominating, discussing, and voting on great contributions
for the month. The winner gets highlighted in a blog post (and maybe the
newsletter), and gets a t-shirt. I'll have to work on better prizes.
Having said that, I think that having another Great Fix competition is
a great idea and I'd like to have AC involvement in the decision making
process. I'll see if I can sort out some prizes that are better than t-shirts.
When do we do this and how is it structured?
Wayne
On 13/07/15 11:03 AM, Lars Vogel wrote:
Hi Wayne,
I think it is not a good candidate for a hackathon, IMHO a community approach
like "Greatfix" would work better here.
Best regards, Lars
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Is this a potential candidate as a "hard problem"
that committers can work on together in the Hackathon at EclipseCon Europe?
Are there any existing bugs that we can use as "bugday" targets
for contributors at the Hackathon?
Wayne
On 13/07/15 02:14 AM, Lars Vogel wrote:
Hi,
In the last release we had the Great bug initiative.
I think one great area for improvement would be the reduction
of the startup time in the IDE.
Maybe the Eclipse foundation could make a competition for
improving it? Accepted contributions could be ranked by improvement and
the largest improvements would win the price.
For the measurement we have in platform a startup time
test, which I think could be used for the measurement. Dani, what do you
think?
If we would do this, we should get the buy-in from the
involved projects. For platform Dani would have to say yes, for p2 Pascal,
etc.
Best regards, Lars
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