Yep.
Prom my view we could leave the projects structure as is, but at least give all "platform" committers in all platform projects rights to commit to "other" platform projects. So that one could fix trivial issues in equinox or p2 without waiting months for a review :-)
Kind regards,
Andrey Loskutov
http://google.com/+AndreyLoskutov
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Juni 2017 um 14:55 Uhr
Von: "Daniel Megert" <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx>
An: eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: Re: [eclipse-pmc] Concerns Regarding Sub-Project Merege
Since I see you're not an SWT committer, I think this is a different, but good topic: What is required to become a committer, independent of whether we merge sub-projects or not.
Dani
From: Lars Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Date: 22.06.2017 12:20
Subject: Re: [eclipse-pmc] Concerns Regarding Sub-Project Merege
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On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Aleksandar Kurtakov
<akurtako@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Aleksandar Kurtakov
> Further more - it's quite likely that new people will fix/improve
> snippets and/or tests and this still requires being SWT committer to
> push but doesn't require special knowledge about any WS.
Take, for example, me. I contributed approx. 70 commits to SWT. And I
think only one of them was in WS specific code (table header styling
for SWT GTK).
All the rest of my commits was about documentation, snippets, new
lambda helper methods, example code and the like.
Best regards, Lars
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Dani,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm still +1 for merging all platform projects together with Equinox
>>>>> into one platform project.
>>>>>
>>>>> All current leads should become co-leads for the new project, as we
>>>>> discussed earlier.
>>>>>
>>>>> For PDE and JDT I have no strong feelings, IMHO we could leave them as
>>>>> separate projects.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe we could merge JDT core and JDT UI, there seems to be very
>>>>> little activity in JDT UI at the moment. Again, I have no strong
>>>>> feeling here, just a suggestion to simplify the setup in JDT.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards, Lars
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Daniel Megert <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Dear Eclipse PMC Colleagues
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After thinking about this more and talking to my team I still have
>>>>>> strong
>>>>>> concerns to do that move. Here are some of them:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - All current (sub-) projects will be archived i.e. we and the community
>>>>>> won't be able to find and learn about e.g. JDT in the PMI.
>>>>>> - There will only be one project with all committers. We would have to
>>>>>> copy/replicate all the details that we currently have in the
>>>>>> sub-projects
>>>>>> into that super project to keep users informed.
>>>>>> - Which people will lead that super project? One person can't do that.
>>>>>> Will
>>>>>> existing leads become co-leads? That would mean many leads and the
>>>>>> project
>>>>>> charter does not define the role of a main/super (co-) lead.
>>>>>> - Do we introduce the concept of components, i.e. do we replicate what
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> currently get by the PMI but not based on an official project charter?
>>>>>> If
>>>>>> so, we would have to define that and create web pages that show the
>>>>>> components and (co-) leads. Basically replicate what we currently have,
>>>>>> except for the commit rights.
>>>>>> - My team was very unhappy when I informed them about this potential
>>>>>> change.
>>>>>> Putting code that's related to Platform UI together is one thing, but
>>>>>> opening up SWT, JDT and PDE to everyone caused very scary feelings (also
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> me to be honest).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to ask the PMC to reconsider this decision for now and
>>>>>> instead
>>>>>> resend the message that the PMC encourages a fast track for existing
>>>>>> committers to become a committer on another project
>>>>>> (https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse-dev/msg10305.html).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Dani
>>>>>>
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