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[mailto:eclipse-incubator-e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Konstantin
Komissarchik
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008
1:29 PM
To: Ed Merks; E4 developer list
Subject: RE:
[eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] Filling the vacuum
> You don't really see faceted projects as an e4
story since you expect it ought to be mainstream in the 3.x stream.
> I suppose for e4 it would make good sense for
this to be an integral part of the platform API, so that's your purpose
> for bring the issue up here. I agree
natures are quite poorly handled currently. They're hard or impossible to
add
> or remove.
Exactly. I want to make progress on the 3.x stream,
but I also want to explore the possibility of making facets be a platform
facility for E4. Since the Faceted Project Framework would start out under
Technology, it will need to find a more permanent home at some point. A
sub-project beneath Eclipse Project or Tools Project are two of the
possibilities.
> It will be interesting to see more about the APIs
involved...
There is an article on eclipse.org that would be a
good way to learn about the API from the perspective of facet author.
http://www.eclipse.org/articles/Article-BuildingProjectFacets/tutorial.html
Konstantin
Komissarchik
| Consulting Member of Technical Staff
Phone: +1 425 201 1795 | Mobile: +1 206 898 0611
Oracle
Eclipse Tooling
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From: Ed Merks [mailto:ed.merks@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008
3:54 AM
To: konstantin.komissarchik@xxxxxxxxxx;
E4 developer list
Subject: Re:
[eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] Filling the vacuum
Kosta,
I would expect a Poisson
distribution to produce pretty much the initial positing patterns we see,
with the added assumption that once a message is posted, a cascade of response
messages typically results. Hey, isn't poisson the French word for
fish? I wouldn't read in anything fishy beyond that...
You don't really see faceted projects as an e4 story since you expect it ought
to be mainstream in the 3.x stream. I suppose for e4 it would make good
sense for this to be an integral part of the platform API, so that's your
purpose for bring the issue up here. I agree natures are quite poorly
handled currently. They're hard or impossible to add or remove. It
will be interesting to see more about the APIs involved...
Cheers,
Ed
Konstantin Komissarchik wrote:
So
what happened to all the activity on this list? It went from a regular 20
messages a day down to 1 yesterday and none today. Something is fishy here. It
sounds like everyone got a day off and I didn’t get the memo. In the
interest of filling the empty space and since this was mentioned earlier on
this list, I’d like to draw people’s attention to the declaration
of the Faceted Project Framework project [1]. The newsgroup [2] is live and is
starting to get some traffic. Folks on this mailing list might be particularly
interested in [3] where I answer the “why can’t we just extend
natures” question. In any case, if you have questions about facets, are
wondering if you have formed any misconceptions or already know that you want
to get involved, jump on the newsgroup and fire away.
[1] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/fproj/
[2] http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/thread.php?group=eclipse.fproj
[3] http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php?id=4&group=eclipse.fproj#4
Thanks for listening.
Konstantin Komissarchik | Consulting Member of Technical Staff
Phone: +1 425 201 1795 | Mobile: +1 206 898 0611
Oracle
Eclipse Tooling
411
108th Ave NE, Suite 2100 | Bellevue, WA 98004
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