| I just named eclipse-databinding as an example because there i know it is used. One has to check all APIs and even behavior changes might be caused because eg the thrown exceptions on parsing might be different, ... .
Tom Von meinem iPhone gesendet Am 18.02.2020 um 19:42 schrieb Aleksandar Kurtakov <akurtako@xxxxxxxxxx>:
You can not remove it eg eclipse-databinding has it baked into its API. Hence the only way forward is to make icu-base a valid artifact one can put on maven central.
Thinking more about it - JDT can move away from it as it doesn't depend on databinding (at least the parts used by jdt.ls). So potential deprecation in eclipse.databinding can go for the needed period of time while others benefit way sooner.
Tom Von meinem iPhone gesendet
Wow. Worry about
13MB. If so, they can use ICU Base.
There is no ICU Base it has been a weird artifact delivered only in Eclipse via a crippled build. As it's not on Maven central I claim that even ICU4J project doesn't consider this a viable option. And this is not answering the question what do we need ICU4J nowadays?
Dani
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Hi Alexander,
I have multiple RCP customers which would be happy if the 13MB could
be dropped from the platform.
+1 for getting rid of it.
Best regards, Lars
On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 6:06 PM Aleksandar Kurtakov <akurtako@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> Hey everyone,
> In the past we needed ICU4J so Eclipse can support latest Unicode.
But with the new JVM cadence Java supports ICU4J pretty much at the same
time the JVM does. Keeping uptodate icu4j requires work in Orbit to get
it integrated (and used to be non-trivial but this is hopefully improved
now).
> Considering that we are not doing very good work in keeping uptodate
icu4j (master has 64.2 while latest is 65.1) we may even face a case where
using icu4j is holding off people that run on latest JVM from proper Unicode
support. Although, I don't believe that there is anything added in either
JVM or ICU4J that is of any practical use for us. Reading http://site.icu-project.org/home/why-use-icu4j most of the reasons to use it are for pre Java 6.
> I questioned the need for it after discussion with JDT.LS people what/why
is it needed as it needlessly add 13MB which is huge size when deployed
to thousands of containers. Eclipse RCP apps face the same issue for sure.
> So do we still need for something or we can start phasing it out ?
>
> P.S. I know that would be probably 2 years of effort.
>
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