Re: [eclipse-dev] Download path for UFaceKit and Builds

[Kim Moir <Kim_Moir@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Tom

I'm sorry to hear that you are frustrated.
 Believe me, I understand your pain :-)  Writing good software
is complex.  Similarly, building software can be very complicated.

Have you asked for help with Athena
on the dash-dev list?  Or opened bugs against that component? I find
that they are usually quite helpful and responsive.   Also, another
option is that if you have existing build scripts that work, you can use
these on build.eclipse.org to run your build.  That's what I have
done to allow our committers to run test builds for Eclipse and Equinox
on Hudson on build.eclipse.org. If you need a Hudson job created for your
build, I would be happy to help you out.   

Kim

Tom Schindl <tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hi Kim,

Yes it is an incubation project and my intention is to setup my own build.

I now tried the 3rd time understand how this athena stuff works and I
have to admit that it *frustrates* me that I still don't get how to work
with it (so many different config-files, no explaination how to work
with Subversion - at least I found no map file explaining how it looks
like, ...).

I don't want to step on anyones toes but for me as "dumb" developer
all
this build stuff is a level to high given the fact that I simply want to
compile a bunch of PLAIN JAVA files and package them as .jars (with
minimal dependencies - SDK + some bundles from Orbit).

I really don't know how to proceed because all of the build technologies
available to me at Eclipse-Servers (athena, buckminster, ...) are so
complex that they simply kill off all the fun I have developing code.

If I count the time I have already tried to understand those build
system(s) I would have written an ant-File to build my plugins, features
and update-site and probably finished my JUnit-Test-Suite.

A more and more frustrated Eclipse-Projectlead/Developer

Tom

Am 25.01.10 15:40, schrieb Kim Moir:
> 
> Hi Tom
> 
> So this is an incubation project?   The approach that we have
taken with
> the Equinox incubation projects recently is for them to have their
own
> builds separate from the Eclipse/Equinox build.  Our build takes
four
> hours to complete and it makes more sense for incubation projects
to
> have their own more agile builds :-)
> 
> What I would suggest is that use you use the infrastructure provided
by
> the dash project (Athena) to run your builds.  
> 
> _http://wiki.eclipse.org/Common_Build_Infrastructure/Getting_Started_
> 
> This will also allow to you run your build on Hudson.
> 
> _http://wiki.eclipse.org/Common_Build_Infrastructure/Getting_Started/Build_In_Hudson_
> 
> I have admin rights on build.eclipse.org's Hudson so I can create
your
> job once your build is working.  Once you get these running,
we can set
> up a cronjob to copy the results of your build to the appropriate
area
> of download.eclipse.org. For security reasons, the hudson user can't
> write to the download.eclipse.org download area. Also, I assume you'll
> have your own p2 repository area?
> 
> Kim
> 
> 
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> Hi,
> 
> The SWT port of UFaceKit is entering in a phase where people can consume
> code and start working with a quite stable API and implementation
beside
> that all external dependencies are approved the IP team.
> 
> So I'm going to invest time to provide nightly builds and M builds
which
> will hopefully lead into a release some time in Spring 2010.
> 
> The question is now where I have to publish my builds in
> download.eclipse.org and I hope you can point me to right place.
> 
> My guess is that I should create a subfolder under downloads/eclipse
> named ufacekit but before doing so I wanted to ask.
> 
> Finally one more question is there somebody out there who can help
me
> getting builds up and running - they are plain Java builds who need
> Eclipse-SDK and some bundles from Orbit?
> 
> Tom
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