Re: [eclipse-dev] SWT Markup should be in the 3.0 plan

["Bob Foster" <bob@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks for your reply.

> We are quite literally max'ed. In addition, we haven't even come to some
> agreement amongst the committers that this is the direction we want to
take
> ...unless the community can make this happen, it's not going to happen.

I understand the resource problem, but I don't understand at all the process
by which "the community" can make anything happen. What is the Eclipse
corollary to the Java Community Process?

Bob

Bob,

There is a big difference in commitment between an exploratory solution like
the work done by Chris and what it takes to make it a real Eclipse output.
Significant work would be required by at least the UI team and the SWT team,
and likely others as well, and the truth of the matter is that at this point
there's no chance of us having the time to do it. We are quite literally
max'ed. In addition, we haven't even come to some agreement amongst the
committers that this is the direction we want to take. Given that, putting
it on the plan anywhere would be premature.

That's not to say that you can't continue the discussion with Chris et al.,
but unless the community can make this happen, it's not going to happen.

McQ.



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(Don't know if this is the right place to post this - seems to be mostly a
build status list of late - please redirect me, if not.)

There should be a standard way to convert XML markup to SWT objects. Moving
the markup-to-SWT step into the platform would encourage and accelerate the
development of visual GUI design tools. (The fact that there are none nearly
two years after Eclipse became open source suggests that a little
stimulation is needed.) Not only would this be useful for new tools, but it
would provide a transformation target for other markup-based GUI produced by
existing tools.

Chris McLaren has made a good start with his XSWT translator. Certainly the
community can pitch in and help with it, but there needs to be an item in
the plan - at least, one of those "after all the committed work is finished"
items - to allow it to be properly integrated and tested.

Bob

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