Re: [ecf-dev] Luna comitment. ALL COMMITTERS PLEASE RESPOND

[Scott Lewis <slewis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Folks,

So far, I haven't heard back from any committers about what level of personal commitment they would be willing and able to make for Luna work.  I would like all committers to respond with a broad estimate what/how much time they are able to commit to Luna SR work, so that I can decide whether there will be sufficient commitment to allow our participation.  I need to decide within a few weeks

So all committers...please respond...either to me privately or publicly...whatever your preference.

Thanks,

Scott


On 9/12/2013 7:45 AM, Scott Lewis wrote:

Well, we don't have a script...except to say that:

1) There will be meeting requirements needs [1]
2) There will be releng needs
3) There will be planning and review materials needs
4) There will be unanticipated integration needs

and...of course you can view the yearly Luna plan and schedule here [1].

Scott

[1] http://wiki.eclipse.org/Luna/Simultaneous_Release_Plan

On 9/12/2013 2:50 AM, Wim Jongman wrote:

Hard to say. It would be nice if we had a script for the release so that we could plan this thing.

Cheers,

Wim

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:29 PM, Scott Lewis <slewis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Ok,

My summary of this question is that most believe that there is some benefit...to consumers and/or ECF marketing/visibility...of participation in the simultaneous release.  I certainly agree with this.  it's hard, however, to quantify exactly how much benefit our consumers or we get...because we don't know all of the different consumers, and even for the ones we know about...we don't often know the details of how they consume ECF (e.g. via Eclipse, SR repo, directly from us, using p2 repos or not, etc). And...we don't really know what the EF will do WRT marketing associated with the SR.

Given this uncertainty, I think one thing to do is to focus on how we (committers, contributors, and community) could do this...i.e. whether there are committers that can/will dedicate time to meeting the Luna SR needs on ECF (e.g. doing releng/build, dealing with IP issues, dealing with integratin issues, creating review materials, etc).   As a person that's done much of this over the past few years, I can say that it's not a lot of work, and it's much less now than with some earlier releases, but during 'release times' (milestones and then the actual release next June)...it does take some significant effort.

Just to get a feel for whether we will be able to execute on this, I would like to propose that we (all committers) declare about how much they feel they could contribute.  Of course it's understood that over the course of a year people's availability could change for lots of reasons...so clearly it's just an estimate.

Let's assume that all the ECF SR work amounts to 100 pts (whatever that ends up translating to in hours/days, etc).

I (Scott) expect to be able to contribute 60 pts.

Other ECF committers (and others if you wish/are able):  please respond to this email with an indication of how many 'points' they expect they would be able and willing to give for SR work during this coming 9 months?  Please respond...if you are able/willing to provide some work on ECF for the SR...even if we get more that 100 pts total :).

The intention of this is for me to get an idea of whether we will be able to perform the necessary SR work to meet this commitment.

Thanks,

Scott

On 9/11/2013 7:18 AM, Markus Alexander Kuppe wrote:

On 09/11/2013 02:20 PM, Steffen Pingel wrote:

I think it's the much better alternative if the ECF project manages the ECF
content that ends up in the release train as we could easily end up
distributing something that doesn't make sense :).

Due to p2, we are in that situation already.

M.
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