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Re: [e4-dev] Questions on e4 state
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Another model change coming is the one from Dirk on the new language switch support.
Tom
Von meinem iPhone gesendet
> Am 13.01.2014 um 22:29 schrieb Marco Descher <marco@xxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> Hy Eric,
>
> thanks for your response, and thanks a lot for the overview on the state.
> I am currently working on a research project, where I want to find the possibilities
> and limitations of creating user documentation based on information within the
> application model.
>
> To this end, I scanned the application model and am currently categorizing these
> for further processing. I am especially interested in the current situation and
> upcoming evolvement of the model, as it poses the base for my work.
>
> As you mentioned, the Opaque and Rendere items outlived their purpose, hence I could
> not make sense of them which led to the question.
>
> I find it sad, that the patches for MDialog and MWizard are going to be removed.
> Is it just this specific solution which did not fit, or is the entire approach of
> representing these elements within the application model going to be abandoned? It did not
> come clear to me in the bugzilla link.
>
> As the documentation, I want to create out of the application model, is targeted to fit to ISO 26514 (see http://standards.ieee.org/findstds/standard/26514-2010.html) I already identified some elements which are not represented within the
> current application model - such as the missing Dialog and Wizards.
>
> What interests me especially, is whether the „Cheatsheets“ as used in E3 are up for discussion
> of inclusion into the application model. As they can be seen as the equivalent of
> an ISO 26514 „Procedure“.
>
> All the best,
> Marco
>
> An 13. Jänner 2014 at 21:14:39, Eric Moffatt (emoffatt@xxxxxxxxxx) schrieb:
>>
>>
>> Marco, sorry for the delay but I'm back and rarin' to go now !
>>
>> First, thanks for the 'kick'...this disappeared from the radar
>> mostly
>> because we don't have an explicit defect open for it. We do still
>> intend to
>> remove the code for the 'Opaque' and 'Rendered' items since they
>> only need
>> access to run-time data which can be stored in the 'transientData'
>> map
>> (which wasn't there when we did the original design). I've just
>> started
>> looking at that this afternoon...
>>
>> As far as new elements go we've added a list of MDialogs and MWizards
>> to
>> the MApplication model but these are experimental and may well
>> be removed
>> based on the feedback we've received on
>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=421462.
>>
>> I don't know of any other changes but I'm still a bit fuzzy from
>> the
>> vacation...;-). Is there something you were particularly interested
>> in ?
>>
>> Onwards,
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Marco Descher
>>
>> To: E4 Project developer mailing list ,
>>
>> Date: 01/10/2014 07:03 AM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [e4-dev] Questions on e4 state
>>
>> Sent by: e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear List,
>>
>> I asked about the state of certain application model elements,
>> a week and a
>> month ago, please see the enclosed mail.
>> Interestingly I find, that no one seems to have an answer on these
>> questions. Could it be, that there is no one
>> assigned to this, or that I am simply querying on the wrong list?
>>
>> In case (no one responsible), may I ask who did the original work
>> on the
>> application model, and if there is a ticket for this? A search
>> for
>> application model in bugzilla is not really useful.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Marco
>>
>> An 06. Jänner 2014 at 08:27:47, Marco Descher (marco@xxxxxxxxxx)
>> schrieb:
>>>
>>> Hy list,
>>>
>>> a few months ago there was a discussion on the list that it is the
>>> time to figure out what we need in e4. I would be very interested
>>> in the following status-quo information; so if anybody could
>>> please help me out!
>>>
>>> * What elements are now planned to be added to the application
>>> model? Is there a ticket for this?
>>> * What happens to the elements in the application model, that
>>> are already considered for removal, but still there like:
>>> Rendered*
>>> Opaque*
>>> * What about the elements marked as Provisional for 4.3 like
>>> ToolBarContribution(s),
>>> TrimContribution(s),
>>> MenuContribution(s)
>>>
>>> If there is a working group considering the help system I would
>>> be very much interested in getting involved, as I am currently
>>> working on a research project where I try to harvest the application
>>> model to generate application documentation!
>>>
>>> Thanks to all of you,
>>> Marco
>>>
>>>
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