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Re: [e4-dev] ribbon experiment on e4?

Hi Susan,

I've done this already multiple times because all my presentations about
e4 end with a demo where the AddressBook-Demo from Kai is rendered with
a Ribbon and a PShelf.

It's quite likely that this code doesn't compile anymore against the
latest HEAD-Revisions but updating it to get in sync with HEAD shouldn't
be a problem.

I've never committed this to e4-CVS because of IP-Issues when using the
Ribbon anyways the code is available from my personal SVN-Repository [1].

Tom

[1]https://svn.tomsondev.com/svn/ufacekit/desktop/org.ufacekit.ui.e4.renderer/src/org/ufacekit/ui/e4/renderer/

Am 05.01.10 20:27, schrieb Susan Franklin McCourt:
> Hi, again, Elias...
> Some of us on the platform UI team were talking today about your
> screencast. We were thinking that an e4 implementation (where you change
> the workbench application model and the renderer for the toolbar/menus
> to use the ribbon) would be a great way to push the e4 application model
> implementation and rendering model.
> 
> We don't have the compatibility workbench back up yet, but you could
> start by trying to "ribbonize" one of the demos.
> 
> It would be really interesting to hear your report of how hard it was to
> change Eclipse 3.x to use the ribbon compared to doing so in e4. In
> theory, it would be simpler (or at least cleaner from a code
> perspective) to do so in e4. If this is not the case, we'd want to know!
> 
> Interested?
> 
> susan
> ----- Forwarded by Susan Franklin McCourt/Beaverton/IBM on 01/05/2010
> 11:20 AM -----
> 
> 
> 	
> 
>                         *Susan Franklin McCourt*
> 
>                         12/23/2009 11:14 AM
> 
> 	
> To: E4 Project developer mailing list <e4-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> cc:
> From: Susan Franklin McCourt/Beaverton/IBM@IBMUS
> Subject: Re: [e4-dev] modernizing the workbench visual design and
> remaining a good platform citizenSusan Franklin McCourt
> <Notes://D03MC014/87256E6B001E9F1C/DABA975B9FB113EB852564B5001283EA/3905D236239B2C578725769100839613>
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> 
> Hi, Elias.
> Great screencast! I found that the live demo really helped, in
> particular emphasizing how the ribbon groupings depict the perspective
> switch. I found that the perspective change seems less "jarring" to me
> when selected that way, though I'd have to really use it to confirm this
> feeling. It was also cool to see the menu bar popping in.
> 
> We have numerous bugs about using the ribbon, but I didn't see one
> tracking the question of "should we use this in the Eclipse SDK UI?" so
> I opened one. [1]. I marked it with a 4.0 milestone, but I realize
> there's no technical reason it would have to be in 4.0. I do think that
> it will become interesting to consider the ribbon organization when
> considering the other visual design changes for 4.0 [2].
> 
> susan
> 
> [1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=298481
> [2] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=293481
> 
> Inactive hide details for Elias Volanakis ---12/19/2009 03:57:17 PM---On
> Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Susan Franklin McCourt < Elias Volanakis
> ---12/19/2009 03:57:17 PM---On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Susan
> Franklin McCourt < susan_franklin@xxxxxxxxxx
> 
> 
> 	
> 
>                         *Elias Volanakis <elias@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>*
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>                         12/19/2009 03:56 PM
>                         Please respond to E4 Project developer mailing list
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> To: E4 Project developer mailing list <e4-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> cc:
> Subject: Re: [e4-dev] modernizing the workbench visual design and
> remaining a good platform citizen
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Susan Franklin McCourt
> <_susan_franklin@xxxxxx.com_ <mailto:susan_franklin@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>       Also, do you have a link (blog, bug, whatever) to the preferred
>       place where we can monitor your experiments in the ribbon space?
>       Fun to watch....
> 
> 
> Susan and e4-dev,
> 
> I've begun to blog about my ribbon experiments (with a short
> screencast): _http://eclipsenuggets.blogspot.com_
> <http://eclipsenuggets.blogspot.com/>
> 
> The code is available on github under EPL
> (_http:/github.com/elias42/ribbonide_
> <http://github.com/elias42/ribbonide>), but it still needs some work
> before I could ship something genuinely useful. 
> 
> Technically it is based on Eclipse 3.5.x. It provides an application for
> the IDE that adds the ribbon widget via the window advisor and a custom
> presentation. My goal is to flesh these things out over the holidays.
> 
> Elias.
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