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RE: [e4-dev] e4 0.9 splash screen?
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For me it'd be fine if the 'animation'
was fairly short (3-5 secs?) and then we just put up the progress
bar like the current splash. That way it really wouldn't matter if we held
up the launch for the necessary time to get smooth rendering. If we try
to tie the animation to the progress I think we'll get 'stuttering'
since the granularity of the events that the current progress bar is using
are too coarse.
Eric
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A 90MB HD is absolutely not practical ;-) That's about the same size as
a packaged Eclipse download! There are some good ideas on that site, but
maybe not feasible for direct use. I think a sequence of images is probably
the best way to do some animation. <crazy idea> What if were to use
some rendering - ala- the old 4K assembler "demoscene" that was
popular back in the day fit minutes worth of animation into 4kb. </crazy>
As far as the choppy video is concerned. Most (all?) widget toolkits are
single threaded. So if the startup sequence needs the UI, it needs to multiplexed
to run alongside the animation already running on the UI. While it is on
the UI thread it prevents the animation from running making it choppy.
This is also a little far out - would it be possible to create an additional
SWT Display (which would have its own independent event loop) just for
the splash screen? The splash event loop would then be completely separate
from the applications event loop.
Thanks,
Mindaugas Idzelis
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Some form of animation should be possible, but I think a 90MB HD video
isn't going to be practical. I wasn't able to get a smooth video showing
without halting the startup sequence, which sort of defeats the purpose
of the splash. If the video runs concurrently with the startup sequence
(which needs periodic access to the UI thread), the animation is quite
choppy. Ben is experimenting with a different approach that iterates through
a sequence of static images, which is looking much nicer. See discussion
in bug https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=280462.
John
Kevin McGuire/Ottawa/IBM@IBMCA
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Me too, it's very nice!
OK if we're serious about this we'd need to sort out the legal. I
looked at the terms and while they're pretty permissive, this one concerns
me:
http://www.pond5.com/index.php?page=legal&agr=rfla
Licensee shall not incorporate
the Licensed Content into a logo, trademark or service mark.
The splash screen feels close to that, though not exactly.
All that aside, I gather from John that animation in the splash may not
be technically possible (?).
Kevin
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I like this one very much: http://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/286524/earth-eclipse.html
Kai
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Yep, niiiiice...except for the color (and that there should be four bright
dots 'dawning'...;-) it's sweet !
Eric
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I'm lurking on this list, but I want to say that I really like the animated
splash screen you just posted. Very good work. I think there is something
missing. I think it would be really cool if there was even more spacey
sci-fi feel. Like the latest Star Trek movie - with a lens flare ;-) I
did a quick search and found some stock video (available for $$$) that
looks like something I was envisioning:
http://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/311672/red-eclipse-2.html
Thanks,
Mindaugas Idzelis
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Looks cool!
Kevin
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Here is a first attempt of a shiny animated splashscreen http://www.benjamin-cabe.com/e4/e4-splashR.htm
:-)
Suggestions are very welcome!
Benjamin-
Eric Moffatt a écrit :
Beauty, I love it !
Eric
Good idea, another suggestion for an animation would be the shine effect,
often used in Movie/Game trailers.
See http://www.trapcode.com/products_shine.html
or
http://www.gfx-sector.de/Videtutorial-Adobe-After-Effects-Shine-Effect.t25455.html
An Eclipse with shine effect would be lovely J
Kai
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What about an animated splash? I think that animation (done non-cheesey,
not limking/flashing but something subtle) would go some ways towards upping
the 'ooooh' factor...something like:
Opens with the regular galileo splash but then 'cross fades' to a similar
image but with four points of light aroung the edges of the eclipse (google
"Bailey's beads", this is an actual artifact of an eclipse...;-)
as the 'eclipse' fodes over into 'e4'...
Eric
Toedter, Kai wrote:
> Any suggestions how to get a really cool e4 logo?
What about using thw existing Eclipse logo, but make it the shape of a
cloud (and replace "Eclipse" with "e4". This could
indicate e4 is a bit
fuzzy, still some vapour and give hint of cloud computing?
Do we have an Eclipse logo without the Eclipse name, to start from?
Hallvard
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> We need a splash screen for the 0.9 Eclipse/e4 SDK, it currently comes
> up with the normal Galileo splash screen. Does anyone (Kai? ;-) have
> cycles for this?
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