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RE: [dsdp-tm-dev] Proposed Website Changes

Hi Kevin,
 
Great suggestions, over all. Thanks for your engagement on this. Some details:
 
+1 for making our frontpage smaller (ideally 1280x1024) and more sexy
     - Add Screenshot
     - Improved "What it is" text
     - Offload "about" info into a good About / learn more... link
     - Offload downloads / release info into a good "Downloads" link
         - Note that we need to keep some links for downloadable documents vs. downloadable software
     - Combine what's new and events
         - I'd still like to keep all the links about presentation material from previous conferences etc.
           But these might need to be offloaded into a separate page (like "Buzz" on RAP)
+1 for the reduced Eclipse.org header like on RAP and Mylyn
     - Note that this might actually just be a different Phoenix Theme:
       - Go to http://www.eclipse.org/phoenix/ and there "Select your theme." "Lazarus"
     - Note that the smaller layout sacrifices the EclipseLIVE, EPIC and Planeteclipse links on top right
+1 for a good bugs page, it can be based on what we already have here:
     http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php
-1 for fully custom navbar on the left. We should better be based on the Common Navbar,
    and if that one is not good then discuss with Bjorn / Process people / Phoenix people
    a better common Navbar. I'd like to see more consistency in the sites from different projects.
    - Note that even when we are based on the Common Navbar we can still customize it easily
    - Based on Common Navbar we'll automatically pick up any REQUIRED changes
    - Add only what we think we'd like to add (so no more tm-log.csv link)
+1 for revamping about / getting started pages
     - perhaps even separate "getting started for users" vs. "getting started for integrators"
       where the latter would point to documents, APIDoc, tutorials, ...
 
Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
 
 


From: dsdp-tm-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-tm-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin J Doyle
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 6:14 PM
To: dsdp-tm-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [dsdp-tm-dev] Proposed Website Changes


Hi all,

As Martin mentioned at the meeting this week I'd like to spruce up the website a bit.

I'm going to compare the site to the Mylyn/RAP sites as I believe those are the best looking project sites.
Mylyn: http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/
RAP: http://www.eclipse.org/rap/

Here the proposed changes:

1.  Change the layout used to be like the Mylyn/RAP sites.
--> This layout gives us more room as the header is reduced for Eclipse, which currently takes up a lot of space.

2.  The main page should be reworked.  Take a look at the Mylyn/RAP sites.
--> We should have an image that can show off as much of the product as possible.  May need to be the Remote Systems View, so people can actually see what it is.  Clicking on the image could take you to a full screenshot showing the whole perspective.
--> Have links to Getting Started, Downloads, and Demos
--> Demos (Screencasts) would be nice to have showing off the basics and could add more demos over time showing more advanced features.  Like how to properly setup an EFS project.

--> Provide a short description of what TM is and a link to the About page for more information
--> Combine What's New and Events into News and display it in a table like we have now for Events.
--> Removing the Quick Links and Getting Started div's.

--> Main idea is try to keep this page as short as possible and grab people's attention.  If it doesn't have a scrollbar on 1280x1024 resolution that would be ideal.

3.  Create a Bugs page.
--> Instead of having a link to all open bugs have a page dedicated to Bug queries.
--> At the top have a link to open a bug and a link to the FAQ for what to include in a bug report.
--> Below that have specific queries for All Bugs, Blocker/Critical/Major/Normal bugs, Minor/Trivial, and one for Enhancements.  We can break this up further into RSE/Terminal bugs.  This way users/extenders can see we have a lot of minor/trivial/enhancement bugs.

4. Navigation Bar Changes
--> Instead of using the default navigation bar I'd like to create a custom one.  This way we can get rid of the dead Integrators link =)
--> The way I see the Nav Bar is as follows.  This goes against the current Eclipse project requirements though as the Information about TM link is suppose to be the top item.  A Bug is open requesting to change the project requirements, as the nav bar as it is now doesn't make sense to me.  Bug #216474 ( https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=216474 ).

Target Management -- Links to main page
   Information  --- Goes to the Information about TM page that was introduced recently.   ( http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project_summary.php?projectid=dsdp.tm )
   About  -- Bring back our old About page that the link was removed to recently
   Team -- Bring back the team page link that was removed recently.
   Plan - Plan for the next release.

    Presentations - Links to ppt and information about past/upcoming presentations.
    Demos - If we have the time to create the demo's mentioned above having this link would be good.
   Wiki - A link to the main wiki page as it's no longer on the Main page.  This makes it easier to move around and still get to the wiki.
   Legal - A link to our tm-log.csv file.  This used to be on the old nav bar, but with the recent changes was removed.  If it's not required I don't think we need this one.
Users  
   Getting Started
   Downloads
   Bugs - Link to the new proposed Bug page.
   FAQ (wiki) - Link to our FAQ.  Displays wiki in the link to show it will go to a wiki page.
   Newsgroup
Contributors
  Contributing (wiki) - A link to our FAQ about the part on Contributing.
  Mailing List
  CVS - A link to how to get the source from CVS.
  Development Tools
 

5.  Go through our About and Getting Started pages cleaning them up.  For example on the Getting Started Page we have:

"
The basis of RSE is a former IBM product, for which a slide show is still available. Our plans beyond TM 2.0 are available from the Target Management Project Plan and our Use Cases Document, which covers all areas of interest to us. "

That is more for the About page.

6. Look into simplifying the download page.  Maybe create a new page that lists the latest release build and the latest milestone.  Have links to the update site, a direct link to download the SDK, and a link for all downloads for that release/milestone, which takes you to the current download page for a release/milestone. Then at the top/bottom have a link to Archive builds, which takes you to where our Downloads page currently takes you.  Not sure if this will really simplify the process for download though.

Opinions, comments, concerns, or additional changes you think we should make?

Thanks,
Kevin Doyle

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