RE: [dsdp-tm-dev] TM conf. call - notes for 7-Jun-2006

[Michael Valenta <Michael_Valenta@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Martin,

Thanks for the clarification. I think
your stance on EFS is perfectly reasonable. However, I think it is worthwhile
to note that, in the absence of any input from clients, there is a chance
that no EFS work will occur in 3.3 in the Eclipse Platform. If any of the
bugs you have mentioned matter in any way to your project, you should comment
on those bugs. I'm thinking particularly of bug 134270 since that bug explicitly
says that nothing will occur until input is received from clients but you
should comment on any bug that may impact you.

I think it is a good thing that you
are still going to experiment with EFS and make this available for other
to try. This will at least give you and your clients an opportunity to
evaluate the API and provide feedback to the Platform Resources and/or
UI team.

Michael

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Hi Michael,
 
EFS is being used for resources
on the local file system, but problems start to get visible when the actual
filesystems are remote or in some other way "non standard".
 
There are UI problems in the wizards
where the actual resource for a project is selected.
On the tools side (CDT, ...) basic
project creation is supported, but problems are found when it comes to
operations on the files (index generation, classpath, build, ...)
 
Unable to specify resources in
zip filesystem
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=137879
 
[EFS] FileSystemContributor API
has insuffecient information
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=134270
 
EFS FTP Error
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=137878
 
CDT EFS Support
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=142092
 
EFS Zip File System Example "Collapse
Zip File" Error
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=138277
 
Most of these bug reports do have
patches attached, but they have not been merged in for Eclipse 3.2 / Callisto.
Bottom line of this is, that with Eclipse 3.2 EFS is not yet ready for
product usage, its still in experimental phase. Therefore we decided that
for RSE we can also keep it in experimental phase for our release.
 
We are happy to provide our example
EFS implementation as a testbed for developers to experiment with EFS on
ssh / sftp or dstore remote connections, and in fact I think we are going
to advertise this with our next milestone. But we are not going to make
EFS support a release plan item.

Cheers,
Martin
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Martin Oberhuber - WindRiver, Austria
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Martin, 

In your meeting notes, you mention EFS bugs that are preventing you from
adopting EFS. Do you have bug numbers for these? As far as I am aware,
there are no major issues with EFS and it is being used as the file system
for all projects in your workspace. Also, my understanding is that JDT
has been migrated to EFS as well. I am not aware of any work in CDT in
this area though. 

If you encounter bugs in EFS, please report then the the Eclipse/Platform/Resources
component. If it is more of an issue of the suitability of EFS for use
in your particular scenarios, you may want to open a discussion of the
API in relation to your requriements on the platform-core-dev mailing list.

Michael

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Hello,

the meeting notes for yesterday's call are now online at
http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/DSDP/TM/Phone_Meeting_7-Jun-2006

The next call will be in 4 weeks, July 5 at 9am PST 
(1st wednesday of the month).

Thanks,
Martin
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