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RE: [dsdp-pmc] TCF agent for windows: "workswith"dependencyfordbghelp.dll
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Cheers,
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Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical
Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project
Lead, DSDP PMC Member
BTW, P2 does provide the ability to show the license and
have the user agree to it. In my discussions with Mike M, there may be a
path forward to enabling this using p2. We'll need to put together a concrete
proposal and see if it'll fly.
Doug S.
Hi Eric,
we'll certainly not be allowed to auto-download
dbghelp.dll since that would be essentially the same as redistributing it
ourselves. I'm not even sure if we're allowed to have links that directly
navigate to the downloadable item. There must be one stage where end-users
clearly see the license of the 3rd party lib.
In terms of docuware, yes, as we're going to create
real download pages for TCF (and actually produce downlaodable artifacts),
we'll make users aware that they need dbghelp.dll and where to get
it.
Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical
Staff, Wind River
Target Management
Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
+1 from Eric Cloninger
Are there adequate instructions on the TCF web site
for directing the user to the correct place? How about in the
runtime itself--can it determine that users have an inadequate version of
the DLL?
-E
Dear PMC,
dbghelp.dll is a
part of Microsoft Windows, but the version that's on the OS out of the box
is buggy. For the debugger to work properly at runtime, users need to go
to microsoft and download the newer version (for free). The DLL is marked
as "redistributable", but none the less the Eclipse Legal Team has found
sections in the license that prohibit us from redistributing it directly
with the Eclipse.org downloads (see CQ 2553
[1]). Thus we request now to document it as 3rd party dependency,
which basically means that products that want to use the TCF exemplary
windows agent would have to bundle the microsoft
dbghelp.dll.
Since the
dbghelp.dll that we need is just a version update,
the TCF agent can
build without the external download, it can even run without the external
download (though crippled), and on platforms other than Windows the
download certainly isn't needed. I think that this clearly
qualifies the dbghelp.dll as a "works-with"
dependency.
As per the 3rd
party dependencies process, the DSDP PMC now needs to discuss this
publicly and agree that it is indeed a "works-with" dependency. Please
read the
process [1] for more information about how "works-with" is defined,
then respond here on the mailing list with your +1 or -1 or comments or
questions.
Thanks,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical
Staff, Wind River
Target Management
Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member