Hi all,
Given all the previous explanations, I'm
voting
+1
for the updated initial committer list:
Arto
Laurila, Nokia
Kevin
Horowitz, IBM
Christian Kurzke, Motorola
Gustavo
Paula, CESAR (Motorola Contractor) Hugo Raniere, CESAR (Motorola
Contractor) Diego Sandin, CESAR (Motorola Contractor) Craig
Setera, Individual (EclipseME
lead)
I'm also OK with not adding Christian Kurzke as
committer,
if his service is really meant to be transitional only.
Though
I would find it really odd if a non-committer is leading
the
project since he would have no right to take part in any
votes.
I
agree that Christian should have full commit rights for now. I will
check into his group memberships. To be honest, I’m not sure what Denis
enabled. It was more of an emergency thing to get the website
updated.
Still,
I view this as temporary, as I suspect Christian does. Ideally, one of
the new committers on the list might step up to be the project lead.
Personally, I would like to see how this develops before we decide
anything.
Doug
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dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Oberhuber, Martin Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007
10:09 AM To: DSDP PMC list Subject: RE: [dsdp-pmc] MTJ
Reboot - New Initial Committer List
So
Christian would be interim project lead for MTJ,
but
not be committer for MTJ,
but
still have commit rights for the portal and the website,
but
not have commit rights for the MTJ CVS Repository?
That's
a very odd situation, especially in the light of
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=198541
that's
trying to standardize UNIX access rights based
on
group membership, Eclipse portal use, committer
status
and votes (conducted through the Portal).
I'm
not 100% sure, but I think that Christian should rather
be
official committer on MTJ, but without access rights on
the
CVS Repository.
Making
him committer makes it explicit that he has something
to say
(as project lead), has a vote in committer votes, and
has
the
right to change the external appearance of MTJ on the
Web.
Or is
there anything against making Christian committer?
Cheers, -- Martin Oberhuber Wind
River Systems, Inc. Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
From:
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Behalf Of Gaff, Doug Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:40
PM To: DSDP PMC list Subject: RE: [dsdp-pmc] MTJ Reboot
- New Initial Committer List
Apparently
I should have called a special meeting to go over the details of the
reboot. J
Christian
will be the interim project lead until we get the project going again.
Sorry if that wasn’t clear from my earlier email. I’m going to help
out with process-related stuff. Christian has the necessary commit
rights to use the portal and update the website. I was able to request
that as PMC lead.
I
will work with Craig on the paperwork. There is an agreement for his
exact situation that his company will have to sign (Eclipse Committer
Employer Consent Form) in addition to the individual committer agreement he
has to fill out. I’m not sure what his employment contract says, but
clearly he will have to verify that before we can official sign him
on. At this point, we have only requested that he come on as a
committer and he’s agreed.
From:
dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Oberhuber, Martin Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007
9:30 AM To: DSDP PMC list Subject: RE: [dsdp-pmc] MTJ
Reboot - New Initial Committer List
Thanks
Doug.
I
like the new committer list because of its diversity.
I'd
like to know who's going to be the new project lead
(and
thus going to represent MTJ at the PMC)?
Knowing
that Craig's company is not sponsoring his EclipseME /
MTJ
work
is interesting, but - in terms of legal - is there also paperwork
in
place
to ensure that they don't have any right on the code he's
contributing?
In
other words, does he have the right to contribute under
EPL?
Many
contracts give companies a right even over code
that
employees develop during their spare-time...
Thanks, -- Martin Oberhuber Wind
River Systems, Inc. Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC
Member http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
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dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Gaff, Doug Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 2:56
PM To: DSDP PMC list Subject: RE: [dsdp-pmc] MTJ
Reboot - New Initial Committer List
0.
Sorry for the confusion. The full and complete initial committer
list is:
Arto
Laurila, Nokia
Kevin
Horowitz, IBM
Gustavo
Paula, CESAR (Motorola Contractor) Hugo Raniere, CESAR (Motorola
Contractor) Diego Sandin, CESAR (Motorola Contractor) Craig
Setera, EclipseME lead
1.
It’s not an issue anymore. You can ignore my previous
message.
2.
Craig’s company does not sponsor his EclipseME work and will not be
sponsoring his MTJ work, which is why I didn’t list
it.
From:
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Behalf Of Oberhuber, Martin Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007
7:55 AM To: DSDP PMC list Subject: RE: [dsdp-pmc] MTJ
Reboot - New Initial Committer List
I'm
slightly confused.
When
starting a new project, the complete committer list is
being
voted
on. Is the list really complete now with Arto and Kevin
added?
1.
In previous messages, we had been asked about adding
both
Doug and Christian as committers for MTJ as well. Isn't that
an
issue any more?
2.
I'm excited about Craig Setera joining the project. Is Craig
self-employed as EclipseME lead, or what's his
affiliation?
Thanks, -- Martin Oberhuber Wind
River Systems, Inc. Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC
Member http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
From:
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Behalf Of Gaff, Doug Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 9:26
PM To: DSDP PMC list Cc:
dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [dsdp-pmc] MTJ
Reboot - New Initial Committer List
That’s
correct. The following commiters will remain on the
project:
Arto
Laurila, Nokia
Kevin
Horowitz, IBM
We
have requested resignations from the inactive committers and Mika is
processing that now.
From:
dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
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3:22 PM To: DSDP PMC list Cc: DSDP PMC list;
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Reboot - New Initial Committer List
I take it
this is not the complete committer list, but the list of adds to
existing committers that have not resigned from the project?
"Gaff,
Doug" <doug.gaff@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hi
PMC,
As
part of the MTJ project reboot, we are specifying a new committer list
for MTJ. The following committers need to be voted on.
Gustavo
Paula, CESAR (Motorola Contractor) Hugo Raniere,
CESAR (Motorola Contractor) Diego Sandin,
CESAR (Motorola Contractor) Craig Setera,
EclipseME lead
You
should treat this as if we were starting a new project. Please
vote.
Doug
P.S. In
our next PMC call, I will update everyone on the history of the project
and the reboot. You can find notes on the recent MTJ meetings
surrounding this reboot on the PMC wiki page._______________________________________________ dsdp-pmc
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