From: dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ext Oberhuber, Martin
Sent: 28 September, 2006 11:07
To: DSDP PMC list
Subject: RE: [dsdp-pmc] FW: Please ask PMC for vote on Rodrigo for Committer
Hello Mika,
please don't shoot me for being picky.
But I think that if we have rules, we should also follow them. And
as a PMC member, I feel obligated to doing things right.
The operation of our projects is clearly defined in the
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/dsdp-charter.php
which refers to the standard toplevel charter for most issues:
http://www.eclipse.org/projects/dev_process/Eclipse_Standard_TopLevel_Charter_v1.0.php
Therefore:
(1) You had only 4 votes for Rodrigo from the active committers.
But our charter says:
Once a Developer is nominated, the Committers for the
Project (or component) will vote for a PMC-designated voting period, and that
period shall be no less than one week. If there are at least 3 positive votes
and no negative votes within the voting period...
So officially, you'll have to either wait 1 week if no negative
votes come in,
or you ask the inactive committers (Marius, Jesper, Minna)
to also give
their vote --> voting period can be shortened if all
votes are in.
I understand this is cumbersome, but that's also the whole point in
trying
to get commit right removed from inactive committers (and why Bjorn
is
going that route) -- because by not voting, they slow things down.
(2) Just a minor issue -- in order to make things publicly
trackable,
you should have posted a summary of the committer
proposal vote
on the dsdp-mtj-dev list, and included a reference to
that posting
into the proposal to the PMC. Looking at the mtj
archives, I cannot
find a vote summary.
For example, see
Proposal for Ted on dsdp-tm-dev
http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/dsdp-tm-dev/msg00455.html
Summary/Approval E-Mail on dsdp-tm-dev / dsdp-pmc 1
week later
http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/dsdp-tm-dev/msg00483.html
Vote summary, referencing proposal
http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/dsdp-tm-dev/msg00485.html
I'm
not sure how urgently you need Rodrigo as committer. It is Eclipse Practice to
have "just enough process", so if it would be a hinderance for you,
I'd vote +1 for Rodrigo in order to avoid unnecessary delays.
However,
if it is no hinderance, I'd recommend waiting the 1 week or trying to get votes
from the inactive committers, or removing the inactive committers. Mind you,
they can still contribute as contributors without commit rights, by sending
patches! But being a committer is more than just write access to the code --
it's also about voting and guiding the project.
This
may be inappropriate for people like Rauno who should just update a website.
But I think that if we want things different, we should change the process
officially. At least as long as it doesnt hurt too much - remember the
"just enough process" guidance.
Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber
Wind River Systems, Inc.
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
From: dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of mika.hoikkala@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:42 PM
To: dsdp-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [dsdp-pmc] FW: Please ask PMC for vote on Rodrigo for Committer
Hi guys again.
I would like you to vote again.
This time we hopefully have predefined things done in a right way.
All active MTJ contributors have voted +1.
Rodrigo has worked with MTJ from the beginning and has been the
other main contributor from IBM side.
He has contributed well and also guys outside current committers
have identified that (see Craig Setera's mail below).
+1 from Mika.
mho
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As a non-committer, I would vote +1. Rodrigo
has already done a good job of handling the bugs that I've written.
Kevin M Horowitz wrote:
>
> I would like to nominate Rodrigo
Pastrana (IBM) as a new committer on
> the MTJ project.
>
> Rodrigo has been working on this project
since the beginning of our
> code development and has contributed
significantly to our Signing and
> Security code base, as well as providing
feedback for the
> documentation and other development
areas.
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From: ext Kevin M Horowitz
[mailto:khorowit@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 27 September, 2006 16:20
To: Hoikkala Mika (Nokia-TP-MSW/Helsinki)
Subject: Please ask PMC for vote on Rodrigo for Committer
Mika,
Can you please pass along a request to the PMC to grant Rodrigo Pastrana
committer rights.
The active MTJ committers had the following vote:
4 votes +1 (Kevin, Petri, Arto, and Mika)
Thanks,
kevin
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Kevin Horowitz (khorowit@xxxxxxxxxx)
IBM Software Group - WPLC
8051 Congress Ave.
Boca Raton, Fl 33487
+1-561-862-2113 (t/l 975)
