| Re: [data-dev] Release a new beta version [b2] |
Yeap, the TCK, and documentation will be challenging, but once we agree, we can focus on those until the first release.
Let's talk about this more at the next meeting.
I checked the Arquillian samples, which makes it more complicated; it would be fantastic if there were more modern and intuitive ways to create tests on Jakarta EE.On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 8:18 PM Nathan Rauh <nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Aiming for an earlier release is fine with me, and probably a good idea because it will leave more buffer if we run into problems. Personally, I would be very surprised if June is realistic, though, given that we haven’t written any TCK tests at all yet. It will be a significant amount of work to do so, and to get them all passing on a compatible implementation that itself is either in beta or released. Let’s discuss on our next call with the other participants and find out what sort of time frame they are thinking. In the meantime, it’s fine to set the date to whatever you like. I think we all realize the release date is still to be determined and something just needed to be put there so that the rest of the plan could be created.
From: Otavio Santana <otaviopolianasantana@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, February 20, 2023 at 2:05 PM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [data-dev] Release a new beta version [b2]@Nathan Rauh last year, the release was in September. How about we move it earlier, such as in June? On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 7: 58 PM Nathan Rauh <nathan. rauh@ us. ibm. com> wrote: Sure, the link is: https: //projects. eclipse. org/projects/ee4j. data/releases/1. 0/plan
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@Nathan Rauh last year, the release was in September.
How about we move it earlier, such as in June?
On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 7:58 PM Nathan Rauh <nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Sure, the link is:
https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/ee4j.data/releases/1.0/plan
I think we’re fine to work on a second beta now, and should try to follow the processes that Ivar outlines for it, learning as we go.
From: data-dev <data-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Otavio Santana <otaviopolianasantana@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, February 20, 2023 at 1:54 PM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [data-dev] Release a new beta version [b2]Hey Nathan, could you share the link, please? So, is it a green signal to move on to the next version? On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 7: 37 PM Nathan Rauh <nathan. rauh@ us. ibm. com> wrote: I just tried following the steps to create a 1. 0 release
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Hey Nathan, could you share the link, please?
So, is it a green signal to move on to the next version?
On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 7:37 PM Nathan Rauh <nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I just tried following the steps to create a 1.0 release and it does indeed allow a release plan to be created, meaning the link below now works, and is populated with what I filled out. I had to arbitrarily fill in a target release date, which I set to some day in December. We can change it later, as well as the other items in the list. I tried to capture things we have been working on thus far. Notably, there is nothing there about REST, which is listed in the original Jakarta Data document but which we have not been working on at all yet, and I was never clear enough on what was intended in that space. Hopefully, someone else can fill that part in.
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [data-dev] Release a new beta version [b2]In that issue discussion, Werner provides links to example release plans, https: //projects. eclipse. org/projects/technology. uomo/releases/0. 8. 0/plan https: //projects. eclipse. org/projects/ee4j. jakartaconfig/releases/0. 1/plan If you try the same
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In that issue discussion, Werner provides links to example release plans,
https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.uomo/releases/0.8.0/plan https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/ee4j.jakartaconfig/releases/0.1/plan
If you try the same for Jakarta Data, it just sends you back to the main page for Jakarta Data
https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/ee4j.data/releases/1.0/plan
Maybe we need to create the 1.0 release first? That seems backwards to me. Intuitively I would expect to create a plan for a release before creating a release.
From: data-dev <data-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Otavio Santana <otaviopolianasantana@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, February 20, 2023 at 11:11 AM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [data-dev] Release a new beta version [b2]Hey Nathan. Please, check this Ivar's thread: https: //github. com/jakartaee/specifications/pull/587#issuecomment-1384220681 The plan's reviews look like the Changelog. On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 4: 21 PM Nathan Rauh <nathan. rauh@ us. ibm. com>
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Hey Nathan.
Please, check this Ivar's thread: https://github.com/jakartaee/specifications/pull/587#issuecomment-1384220681
The plan's reviews look like the Changelog.
On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 4:21 PM Nathan Rauh <nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On the topic of the Plan Review, does anyone know how to create one?
If I browse to the project for Jakarta Data, https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/ee4j.data, I only see options for Progress Review and New Release:
The Eclipse documentation for creating a Project Plan
https://www.eclipse.org/projects/dev_process/#4_10_Plans
says “Project Plans must be delivered to the community through communication channels approved by the EMO” but doesn’t give specific detail or links.
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [data-dev] Release a new beta version [b2]That would be the nice move. Release a version with Repository and pagination is great for the first version. On Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 10: 44 Werner Keil <werner. keil@ gmx. net> wrote: What about the Plan Review? Gesendet von Mail für Windows Von:
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That would be the nice move.
Release a version with Repository and pagination is great for the first version.
On Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 10:44 Werner Keil <werner.keil@xxxxxxx> wrote:
What about the Plan Review?
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Hello everyone, after a couple of discussions on the API, we get progress on it; plus, we need enough maturity to publish a new beta version and a plan to the Jakarta EE committee.
Please, let me know your thoughts.---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Ivar Grimstad <ivar.grimstad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [data-dev] Jakarta EE 11 Planning - Request for Input[Jakarta Data]
To: data developer discussions <data-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Well, not entirely true. As I explained here, you still need to produce a plan for Jakarta Data and engage in a plan review according to the JESP.
Since there is no plan on record approved by the specification committee, so the answer to the first question would be "No", and then follow from there.
Ivar
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 7:38 AM Otavio Santana <otaviopolianasantana@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello everyone, as we talked about in the last meeting.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rd4kOmXxVmrmbvI-viKbkqFY-WDXxWYaUfKvi9ZQALM/edit
We only need to answer the first two with yes.
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