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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Is AERI still used in release train
Fun fact: I get more mail from users about Eclipse BIRT in the EMO inbox than all other projects combined. Most of the questions are of the nature "why is BIRT broken and what are you going to do about it". 

I realize that this sucks, but the Eclipse BIRT project team is missing in action. The project has not been operating according to the EDP for an embarrassingly long time. They are on my list as a candidate for termination and archival.

Fun fact: the aggrcon file is pulling from a release labeled "oxygen-interim". So I'm not even convinced that this is released code (I am, however, confident that the IP is properly accounted for).

In the meantime, AFAICT, BIRT is not listed as a user-installable feature in the simultaneous release repository, so I guess that we're not being actively hurt by it being included in the manner that it is included. Please correct me if I've missed something important.

What are our options?

Is anybody interested in stepping up to grab the reins for BIRT?

The interesting features of BIRT can be moved to another project when I finally engage in the termination review that I've been threatening for months.

MAT and PDT switch over to Eclipse SWTChart.

Wayne

On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 10:33 AM Ed Merks <ed.merks@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Wayne,

I tried to delete BIRT last year, but there are still dependencies on small parts of it, and those are still there:

https://download.eclipse.org/oomph/archive/reports/download.eclipse.org/releases/2020-12/http___download.eclipse.org_releases_2020-12_202010161000/org.eclipse.php.profile.ui_7.2.0.202005271851.html#osgi.bundle;_org.eclipse.birt.chart.device.swt_0.0.0
https://download.eclipse.org/oomph/archive/reports/download.eclipse.org/releases/2020-12/http___download.eclipse.org_releases_2020-12_202010161000/org.eclipse.mat.chart.ui_1.10.0.202002252112.html#osgi.bundle;_org.eclipse.birt.chart.device.swt_2.3.0

Regards,
Ed

On 22.10.2020 15:07, Wayne Beaton wrote:
Thanks for this, Jonah.

That logging/milestones directory probably needs to be removed, but I'll leave that to your discretion.

The BIRT aggrcon needs to be removed. BIRT dropped out, so their aggrcon should be deleted, please. 

I'm not sure why USSSDK uses something other than aggrcon files. Is there somebody from the project who can help us understand what's going on here?

Eclipse ACTF team was--the last time I looked--still paying attention. It's probably time for somebody to check in with some of our quieter participants to make sure that they're still there.

I've removed Eclipse CFT from the 2020-09 participation page.

Wayne

On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 9:40 PM Jonah Graham <jonah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Wayne,

TL;DR


There are 6 or so other aggrcons that need attention, details below, but 4 of them can be deleted if I can get a +1 on  change 171096

Longer version:

The AERI p2 repo was being picked up from https://download.eclipse.org/technology/epp/logging/milestones/ - see https://git.eclipse.org/r/c/simrel/org.eclipse.simrel.build/+/170952 for the change that removed it from SimRel.

There are a few other aggrcon files that are perhaps a little dated.

enabled aggrcon files with no edits in 2020:
- actf - project has a few commits in 2020, just no more recent release or contribution to simrel
- birt - there is long history here that I am not revisiting[1]
- usssdk[2] - project has a few commits in 2020, just no more recent contribution to simrel

disabled aggrcon files:
- cft - project lead withdrew project from simrel:  https://www.eclipse.org/lists/cross-project-issues-dev/msg17808.html
- emf-diffmerge - project lead withdrew project from simrel: https://www.eclipse.org/lists/cross-project-issues-dev/msg17434.html
- emf-parsley - gets disabled and reenabled in every release cycle: Bug 567817

Can we just delete the disabled aggrcon files (Except emf-parsley)? If so, can you or someone else +1 https://git.eclipse.org/r/c/simrel/org.eclipse.simrel.build/+/171096

[1] ...but the current birt p2 repo contributes a bunch of old orbit content to simrel that cause problems like Bug 499207 (Obsolete certificates) - in light of Bug 553288 which may make even more of the certificates out of date we may need to revisit this again before 2020-12 release. The birt p2 repo is practically a simrel of its own, it includes lots or orbit, eclipse platform, datatools, and lots of other stuff. Generally this is not a problem, but the orbit project publishes bundles with the same fully qualified version that differs only in signature. So there are multiple bundles out there which are not binary equal but have the same version.

[2] usssdk has some inconsistent participation info, https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.usssdk/releases/2.0.0 shows as particpating in a bunch of simrels that I don't think it did based on the aggrcon

[3] ldt is listed in participation for 2019-12, but it didn't: https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/tools.ldt/releases/1.4.2

HTH,
Jonah

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Jonah Graham
Kichwa Coders
www.kichwacoders.com


On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 at 18:12, Wayne Beaton <wayne.beaton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks for this clean up, Jonah.

The Automated Error Reporting Infrastructure (AERI) code was retired with Code Recommenders in July 2019.

I find it curious that the code is even reachable. Do you know what p2 repository it was pulling from?

Wayne


On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 11:52 AM Jonah Graham <jonah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi folks,

While AERI was removed from the EPP packages earlier this year, the contribution to simrel was never removed.

I am now removing it. Therefore AERI is officially no longer part of SimRel.

BTW - this came up again because the AERI repo is contributing an old version of org.apache.commons.lang3 to simrel causing some users to get certificate errors when they install components (such as PDT). See Bug 568003 and Bug 499207. Note that Scout is also contributing the same old version, but they have fixed it on their current dev branch, so I hope to see that in SimRel soon, see Bug 568001.

Thanks,
Jonah

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Jonah Graham
Kichwa Coders
www.kichwacoders.com


On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 at 14:15, Stephane Bouchet <sbouchet@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
thanks guys for the quick response :) 

Le lun. 16 mars 2020 à 18:04, Jonah Graham <jonah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
EPP RC2a has AERI removed. Please see https://www.eclipse.org/lists/epp-dev/msg05808.html

It should come out of simrel too probably for 2020-06.


Thanks, 
Jonah 

On Mon., Mar. 16, 2020, 13:00 Stephane Bouchet, <sbouchet@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi all,
It seems AERI is abandoned and causes some troubles for end users. like[1]
Looking at the aggr file, it has not been touched since almost 4 years [2] .
i've tried to download an EPP package ( JEE ) and aeri cannot start. I believe no other project use it inside EPP. 
is it the case ? 

Maybe is it time to remove it from EPP?

Update sites are still present, so end users who want to use a newer version still can. 

Regards,


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