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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Are restrictions on Bugzilla worse thanspam?
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> Wasn't there is
a captcha mechanism in place which prevents robots from registering accounts?The webmaster said that the spam was
not created by robots but real humans.DaniFrom:
Gunnar Wagenknecht
<gunnar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To:
Cross project issues
<cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>Date:
12.11.2016 19:03Subject:
Re: [cross-project-issues-dev]
Are restrictions on Bugzilla worse thanspam?Sent by:
cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
I agree with Mickael that the situation is not good for
an open community. Manual moderation does not scale and it is an extra
wall for contributing.Wasn't there is a captcha mechanism in place which prevents
robots from registering accounts? Can we please prioritize the work to
get the account sign-up fixed so that only humans can sign up? -Gunnar
--
Gunnar Wagenknecht
gunnar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
http://guw.io/
On 12 Nov 2016, at 17:49, Daniel Megert <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:The spam wasted at least half an hour
of my time every day, so "NO", the spam must not come back. NO
WAY!
If you feel good about the spam I suggest you sign up as moderator for
the new accounts.
Dani
From: Mickael
Istria <mistria@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: Cross
project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 12.11.2016
17:07
Subject: [cross-project-issues-dev]
Are restrictions on Bugzilla worse than spam?
Sent by: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
TL;DR: Bugzilla restrictions block new contributors - that's worse than
spam.Hi all,
A few weeks ago, because of a spam attack, access to bugzilla
and ability to report bugs and comment on bugs for new members was restricted.
New members now have to ask webmasters to be whilelisted and allowed to
interact with the community.
I've got some colleague who just registered and tried to
contribute and totally failed at it. The message about asking webmasters
for whilelist wasn't visible enough apparently so they didn't realize it
was necessary and just ended up with an account which seem unusable
to them. So I had to forward messages in their name: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=506244#c19
Moreover, in that case, we're speaking about someone working on week-ends
and is ready to contribute on week-ends, and I don't expect webmasters
to promptly react to whilelisting request on week-ends. So even if the
user would have sent a mail, it could have requested days to be processed.
If I had not been there to assist my colleague in contributing, he'd just
had given up. And I'm pretty sure that several other people have given
up contributing since the introduction of this "ask for permission"
rule.
So IMO, the current state is by far worse than having spam.
It makes the community more difficult to join for new subscribers and appear
more closed than it is. A lot of effort were done in the past to "reduce
barriers" from users to contributors, and this Bugzilla thing goes
to the opposite direction.
Can we please have spam and new contributors again? And then consider approaches
that have worked for other tools to avoid spam? I don't get why bugs.eclipse.orgwould be the only service for which reCaptcha wouldn't work...
Cheers,
--
Mickael Istria
Eclipse developer for Red
Hat Developers
My
blog - My
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