Hi
I am doing my best to continue support for existing functionality,
so in the absence of a clear Eclipse statement that Java 5 support
is terminated, I feel I have to continue to keep close to 5.
Guava changing to Java 6 was awkward.
OSGI changing to Java 6 is very close to a mandatory downstream
consequence.
Can we please have a clear policy statement rather than a secretive
creep.
I don't mind changing to Java 6, it probably makes life easier. But
I hate this are we 5 or 6 limbo?
Regards
Ed Willink
On 03/09/2013 13:51, David M Williams
wrote:
I probably should
have mentioned, there
are several bugs we are still trying to work through, where the
Tycho/Maven
build picks a different "compiler level" than the way PDE used
to it ... and not always in the way we intend, for example,
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=415116
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=411419
I am not sure if this is related
to
the issue you are seeing ... or if merely confirms yet another
"unannounced
change" ... but I don't think it changes the bottom line:
If you want things different than
they
are, open a bug or comment on an existing one. If it is merely a
matter
that you don't really care, but you have to change your test
scripts, then
all I can say is "sorry".
From:
Ed Willink
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To:
Cross project issues
<cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date:
09/03/2013 08:34 AM
Subject:
Re:
[cross-project-issues-dev]
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Hi Szymon
Your list omits the 'culprit'.
It is org.eclipse.osgi.util.NLS that is now Java 6 putting
paid to all
attempts at internationalization with Java 5.
Regards
Ed Willink
On 02/09/2013 16:41, Szymon Ptaszkiewicz wrote:
> See
> http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=eclipse#appendix
> for the table of minimum EE per bundle.
>
> Szymon
>
>
>
>
> From:
David M Williams <david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To:
Cross project issues
<cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date:
2013-09-02 17:34
> Subject:
Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Has Java 5 Platform support
> been
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>
>
>
>> So it seems that the Platform no longer supports Java
5.
> Yes and no. As a whole, such for whole Eclipse SDK, even
Kepler (If
not
> Juno) said "Java 6 required", although there were always
some bundles (and
> combination of bundles) that supported lower VMs.
>
>> Is this intentional and an unannounced policy change?
> Probably not announced well. It has been discussed at
status meetings,
and
> various bugzillas, that some previous "1.4" or "1.5"
bundles were moving to
> "1.5" or "1.6", but I am not sure there is yet
a comprehensive list of
> those that have. (Other than looking in the manifests
themselves).
>
> I think it's been assumed "no one cares about Java 1.5
any longer"
... so,
> if anyone does (i.e. you have requirements or customers
with requirements
> for 1.5), then I suggest you open a bug on the specific
use-case you
need
> to support on 1.5 and what bundle changes prevent that.
I'm sure the
> committers for those components would be willing to
re-consider if
it
> impacts adopters.
>
> But, the default assumption for testing should be "1.6"
... would be my
> personal advice.
>
> HTH
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Ed Willink <ed@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Cross project issues
<cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
> Date: 09/02/2013 11:02 AM
> Subject: [cross-project-issues-dev] Has
Java 5 Platform support been
> discontinued?
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>
>
>
> Hi
>
> Using a recent (post M1) platform I-build some of my unit
tests now
fail
> with a NoClassDef found for Platform.
>
> Changing the launch configuration to force JVM 6 and the
tests run
fine.
>
> So it seems that the Platform no longer supports Java 5.
>
> Is this intentional and an unannounced policy change?
>
> Regards
>
> Ed Willink
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