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Re: [eclipse.org-planning-council] RE: [cross-project-issues-dev] EclipseCon and Ganymede M5
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If the stick-write date can't be delayed...
* Would it be possible to have the staff that are manning the sign-in
booths ALSO be running laptops to update the contents of the sticks?
* Or, would people be willing to attend a Sunday-night-before-the-con
BoF for getting M5eh updated onto the sticks? (I'm game.)
* Or, could there be local mirrors set up with the whole Ganymede M5
stack on it? Sure, it won't be on the sticks, but the sticks could
point to the URL where the updated version would be easily fetched.
The added issue here is, as Harm points out, hardware/OS. Will the
sticks have enough space for at least Win-32, Win-64, Linux-gtk-32,
Linux-gtk-64, and Mac? I'd think that should cover most people.
How big are the sticks? The current Ganymede update site is 661M.
Platform runtime binaries are 38M each. Without a single powerpoint
presentation or pdf or tutorial workspace zip, that's 851M (for 5
distros). Assuming that last year's collection of materials was over
256M (or it would have been on a 256M stick, not a 512M), you'll need
a 2G stick to house Ganymede + the presentation materials.
Also, I ran into some people last year who came to the con w/o Eclipse
or a JDK already on their laptops. It would be great if we could
provide JDKs on the stick too, provided no objections re:
redistribution from Sun, IBM, BEA, etc. Given installation requires
agreement to their respective EULAs, it's really just a redistribution
issue.
N
On Jan 30, 2008 1:10 PM, Harm Sluiman <sluiman@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I am all for Ganymede on a stick, but as an +2 project it is a bit
> troublesome to be asked to move our end date up with short notice.
>
> In TPTP we are doing a requested concurrent maintenance release as we close
> down on M5 and everyone is more than fully challenged to deliver both. We
> just had a PMC call and are continuing to commit to the 18th date but sooner
> is questionable.
>
> I would like to ask the same questions as Nick:
>
> Can the stick dates be set a bit later to align closer with the previously
> committed plans?
>
> Exactly what components are going to go on the stick, and for what
> hardware/OS platforms?
>
>
> Thanks for your time.
> ________________
> Harm Sluiman,
> IBM Distinguished Engineer
> phone:905-413-4032 fax: 4920 cell: 1-647-300-4758
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>
>
> Nick Boldt/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
> Sent by: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> 30/01/2008 12:21 PM
>
> Please respond to
> Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
> To "eclipse.org-planning-council"
> <eclipse.org-planning-council@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Cross project issues"
> <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> cc
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> Subject Re: [eclipse.org-planning-council] RE: [cross-project-issues-dev]
> EclipseCon and Ganymede M5
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Platform's scheduled M5 release is Friday Feb 8. Our M5 is due the
> next day on Monday (+1 == Feb 11). History says Ed (or someone
> Ed-like) finds a problem with M5 within the first few days of use,
> prompting M5eh to be rolled out by week's end. This is why there's a
> week lag between +1 and +2, so accomodate the slippage. But as Ed's on
> vacation through the 9th, we may not find the 'eh' in time.
>
> If we condense the schedule so that +2 is done on Feb 13, +3 on Feb
> 14, and EPP on Feb 15, that still leaves two days -- Feb 11 & 12 --
> for M5 testing & platform respins, and Feb 18 for public releases and
> copying to memory sticks. It's tight, but if there's no 'eh' this
> year, it may be doable.
>
> Of course the other approach might be extend the memory stick
> deadline... is that possible?
>
> Incidentally, which package(s) will be on the stick?
>
> Nick
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2008 5:46 AM, Ed Merks <merks@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > We (by which I mean Nick, because I'll be away on vacation starting
> > Saturday for two weeks not causing him troubles by changing the code)
> could
> > try to pull EMF in to be a +0 if that helps... I.e., we could try to be
> > ready the same day as the platform's M5...
> >
> >
> > Ed Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
> > mailto: merks@xxxxxxxxxx
> > 905-413-3265 (t/l 313)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Oberhuber,
> > Martin"
> > <Martin.Oberhuber
> To
> > @windriver.com> "eclipse.org-planning-council"
> > Sent by:
> <eclipse.org-planning-council@eclip
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> > [eclipse.org-planning-council] RE:
> > 01/30/2008 04:50 [cross-project-issues-dev]
> > AM EclipseCon and Ganymede M5
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> > "eclipse.org-plan
> > ning-council"
> > <eclipse.org-plan
> > ning-council@ecli
> > pse.org>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > +1 for Ganymede on the stick. That would be a tremendous benefit not only
> > for Conference attendees, but also for Ganymede projects since by
> > that way we receive an extra amount of early integration testing.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > --
> > Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind River
> > Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
> > http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
> >
> >
> >
> > From: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bjorn
> > Freeman-Benson
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 2:59 AM
> > To: eclipse.org-planning-council; Cross project issues
> > Subject: [cross-project-issues-dev] EclipseCon and Ganymede M5
> >
> > Ganymede Project Teams,
> > The Ganymede M5 final build is Feb 25th (
> > http://wiki.eclipse.org/Ganymede#Milestones_and_Release_Candidates).
> > However, the deadline for preloading bits on the EclipseCon USB memory
> > stick is Feb 18th and the memory stick this year is large enough to
> > contain all the presentations and all the Ganymede packages.
> >
> > So... do we want to compress the M5 schedule in some way so that we can
> > preload the M5 bits on the EclipseCon memory stick?
> >
> > - Bjorn
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