RE: [cross-project-issues-dev] Getting started page

[David M Williams <david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx>]

My preference still would be to have
Web Applications separate ... I really do think that most of those who
develop web applications think of Java a secondary ... (important, yes)
... but they may actually spend more time on their HTML, _javascript_, database
queries, etc., than the do on Java, per se. Of course, I am biased ....
as all we are ... but that that's my perception. 

And, IMHO, I think as long as there
are no more than seven categories on that landing page (maybe 5?) you'll
still be achieving good "usability".

"Tim Wagner" <twagner@xxxxxxx>
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I'd go for "Java/Web Applications" instead
- in part because it's
technically more correct, but mostly because I think it's easier to
parse than the double vowel.

The demo rocks - very cool!

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[mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wayne
Beaton
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 7:06 PM
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Subject: RE: [cross-project-issues-dev] Getting started page

I actually had one of those at first. I decided to instead try and roll
the
JEE tools and the Java tools together (along with the GUI building,
testing,
and reporting tools). Maybe that was a mistake. Would it be enough to
include Java EE in the title? i.e., something like "I build Java/Java
EE
applications".

Excluding the modeling projects from the "Eclipse for Java Developers"
page
was the harder decision for me. I figured that your average Java
developer
wouldn't know what to do with those features. Was that a bad decision?

Did you get a chance to look at the "Installing and Using the Eclipse
Web
Tools" demo?

Wayne
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Tim Wagner
> Sent: June 18, 2006 2:53 PM
> To: Cross project issues
> Subject: RE: [cross-project-issues-dev] Getting started page
> 
> At the risk of sounding project centric...how about an "I 
> build web applications"? That captures a larger user 
> demographic than RCP developers.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Wayne Beaton
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 11:18 AM
> To: cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [cross-project-issues-dev] Getting started page
> 
> Hey folks. We've been putting some thought into some "getting
started"
> information for the Callisto landing page. What we're 
> thinking is that we'll include the three fancy graphics on this page:
> 
> http://eclipse.org/callisto/getstarted.php
> 
> Onto the landing page.
> 
> So...
> 
> I'm curious to learn how you feel about this page. Is it a good idea?
> Does
> it come close to providing what folks need? Do you like the 
> format? Is the way it works more or less obvious?
> 
> Feedback and comments welcome.
> 
> I know that the C/C++ page doesn't exist yet. That's next 
> (assuming enough of you like what's there so far).
> 
> And, I need a good concise (i.e. one sentence) description of 
> DataTools.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Wayne
> --
> Wayne Beaton
> The Eclipse Foundation
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